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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Missionaries are the worst, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:01 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 2:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: It is too sophisticated to come from the dumb environment. 
Your preference for your beliefs won;t change the accuracy of the statement.  

Quote:It comes from advanced intelligence. 
If by "advanced intelligence" you mean "the dumb environment"..then..yeah, sure.

Quote:Design is detectable.
If you say so, but you'd be talking about what the dumb environment designed.  

Quote:The Type III Transport and the other machines I posted earlier.
-aren't examples of irreducible complexity any more than the bacterial flagellum was..as we've already discussed at length.

It comes from advanced intelligence; meaning a mind/Creator.

Yes, they are.  There are tons of molecular machines that are irreducibly complex.

(May 15, 2018 at 3:03 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 2:50 am)CDF47 Wrote: I was hoping some atheist would see the truth in science that there is a Designer.  Not sure if any lurkers have changed their minds.  No matter what i say to the posters on here doesn't matter because they will just fallibly try to refute it.

You didn't bother making a case in order to convince any atheist. All you did was make a simple post of 110 words and then say that you had won the argument. Do you honestly believe that it was going to convince anyone? Did you honestly believe that people here haven't heard the same argument over and over again argued far more persuasively than a pithy 110 word paragraph?

Did you not expect atheists to try and refute what you said?

Lurkers aren't going to wade through 204 pages of posts. If anything all you have done is demonstrated to anyone questioning their belief that religion really is a delusion.

The first post makes my case but I support it throughout the thread with videos, links, more information,...

Maybe/maybe not.

(May 15, 2018 at 3:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: Missionaries are the worst, lol.

Have you watched the videos I posted of the machines operations?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:12 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 3:03 am)Mathilda Wrote: You didn't bother making a case in order to convince any atheist. All you did was make a simple post of 110 words and then say that you had won the argument. Do you honestly believe that it was going to convince anyone? Did you honestly believe that people here haven't heard the same argument over and over again argued far more persuasively than a pithy 110 word paragraph?

Did you not expect atheists to try and refute what you said?

Lurkers aren't going to wade through 204 pages of posts. If anything all you have done is demonstrated to anyone questioning their belief that religion really is a delusion.

The first post makes my case but I support it throughout the thread with videos, links, more information,...

Maybe/maybe not.

So why did you repeatedly tell us that you won the argument in the first post?

Genuine question here not meant as an insult, are you on the autistic spectrum?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:21 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 3:12 am)CDF47 Wrote: The first post makes my case but I support it throughout the thread with videos, links, more information,...

Maybe/maybe not.

So why did you repeatedly tell us that you won the argument in the first post?

Genuine question here not meant as an insult, are you on the autistic spectrum?

I was partly joking with you all.  I thought you would figure that.  My first post does make a strong case though, enough to win the debate but I provided a lot of additional information.

Genuine answer, no.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:27 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 3:21 am)Mathilda Wrote: So why did you repeatedly tell us that you won the argument in the first post?

I was partly joking with you all.  I thought you would figure that.  My first post does make a strong case though, enough to win the debate but I provided a lot of additional information.

Did you expect this argument to be new to us? Why don't you think that we're convinced by it?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:12 am)CDF47 Wrote: It comes from advanced intelligence; meaning a mind/Creator.
Are you sure that accuracy is important to you?  

Quote:Yes, they are.  There are tons of molecular machines that are irreducibly complex.
The articles of your faith are unimportant to me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:"In The Origin of Species Darwin stated:

'If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.'
Who cares modern evolutionary biology has moved well beyond Darwin's work

Quote:It comes from advanced intelligence; meaning a mind/Creator
Baseless assertion 


Quote:Yes, they are.  There are tons of molecular machines that are irreducibly complex.
You religious claim don't interest me  
  
Quote:My first post does make a strong case though, enough to win the debate but I provided a lot of additional information.
No it didn't you simply stated ID long refuted nonsense 

Quote:I was hoping some atheist would see the truth in science that there is a Designer.  Not sure if any lurkers have changed their minds.  No matter what i say to the posters on here doesn't matter because they will just fallibly try to refute it.
Nope we more then refuted you . And no sane person would alter their opinion of Creationist psedo science on your lame case .


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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:36 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 3:27 am)CDF47 Wrote: I was partly joking with you all.  I thought you would figure that.  My first post does make a strong case though, enough to win the debate but I provided a lot of additional information.

Did you expect this argument to be new to us? Why don't you think that we're convinced by it?

I know some aren't but some may be and may just not be posting.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:ID asks the hard questions.  It discovers some great answers as well.
No it does not it tries to feed it's agenda on the hard work of real scientists . It makes no discoveries and it never will because it pseudoscience 


Quote:Accuracy is important.
ID does not give a shit about accuracy they lie and distort nothing more

Quote:I know some aren't but some may be and may just not be posting.
No one here will fall for your bollocks
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 15, 2018 at 3:59 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 15, 2018 at 3:12 am)CDF47 Wrote: It comes from advanced intelligence; meaning a mind/Creator.
Are you sure that accuracy is important to you?  

Quote:Yes, they are.  There are tons of molecular machines that are irreducibly complex.
The articles of your faith are unimportant to me.

I am sure accuracy is important.

They are about molecular machines.  They are short videos that show how some molecular machines operate.  There are a number of good videos on this.

(May 15, 2018 at 4:16 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:"In The Origin of Species Darwin stated:

'If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.'
Who cares modern evolutionary biology has moved well beyond Darwin's work

Quote:It comes from advanced intelligence; meaning a mind/Creator
Baseless assertion 


Quote:Yes, they are.  There are tons of molecular machines that are irreducibly complex.
You religious claim don't interest me  
  
Quote:My first post does make a strong case though, enough to win the debate but I provided a lot of additional information.
No it didn't you simply stated ID long refuted nonsense 

Quote:I was hoping some atheist would see the truth in science that there is a Designer.  Not sure if any lurkers have changed their minds.  No matter what i say to the posters on here doesn't matter because they will just fallibly try to refute it.
Nope we more then refuted you . And no sane person would alter their opinion of Creationist psedo science on your lame case .


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Yes, far beyond Darwin to learn that what he stated is true and the information in DNA, molecular machines,..., are to sophisticated for his theory to prove origins or be the only means of creation.

Disagree.

They should.  Those aren't religious claims by the way, they are scientific claims.

No I didn't.

I hope there is someone out there.

No, it's not.
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