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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Tinker God can;t design an automated system.  What a fuckup.

-Dont get me wrong, I agree with you here. The god depicted in the bible is an imbecile, that level of engineering would be beyond his abilities. I guess he might stumble into by accident, but I doubt it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:Because the Scriptures make it clear that He is in control and He has providence over it all. 
Circular reasoning 


Quote: God is in control of every molecule.  
Bare assertion 


Quote:I believe He uses micro-evolution as a tool as you say for some adaption which appears to be undeniable.
Taxi cab fallacy. You don't get to pick and choose what parts of evolution are true . It's a full package .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
It;s an interesting thought about gods..though, that this alleged ability to do magic obviates any need for them to understand how anything is done or accomplished.  There;s no "design" in poofing shit into existence.  It just happens.  Maybe that;s why they don;t know how the world they created works?

Competence without comprehension, at it;s finest.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 5:15 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Tinker God can;t design an automated system.  What a fuckup.

-Dont get me wrong, I agree with you here.  The god depicted in the bible is an imbecile, that level of engineering would be beyond his abilities.  I guess he might stumble into by accident, but I doubt it.

He is all powerful and never grows weary and chooses to be involved with His creation.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Strange how "all power" doesn;t include being capable of evolutionary biology, and being "involved" turns out to be finding lost wallets or appearing on toast.

Gotta say, he;s been pretty low energy in the miracle dept the last few centuries as well. Really losing steam. Used to be zombies coming up from the grave and cities destroyed by impact and nagging wives turning into pillars of salt..now he;s super into getting people minimum wage jobs at walmart.

Thanks jesus!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 5:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It;s an interesting thought about gods..though, that this alleged ability to do magic obviates any need for them to understand how anything is done or accomplished.  There;s no "design" in poofing shit into existence.  It just happens.  Maybe that;s why they don;t know how the world they created works?

Competence without comprehension, at it;s finest.

He uses micro-evolution for some change over time and some adaptations.  The genus changes do not occur by evolution, however.  Full new information for body plans are introduced into the world.

(May 16, 2018 at 5:23 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Strange how "all power" doesn;t include being capable of evolutionary biology, and being "involved" turns out to be finding lost wallets or appearing on toast.

He uses minor-evolution as a tool I believe.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:He uses micro-evolution for some change over time and some adaptations.  The genus changes do not occur by evolution, however.  Full new information for body plans are introduced into the world.
Rubbish it's all done by evolution . and your whole attempt to hijack REAL science in a way that does not compromise your sacred fables is just sad. Like a man trying to force a square peg into a circle
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 5:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -God.

The truth of the matter..available to anyone who believes in a coherent and existent god..is that if god somehow created life, evolutionary biology was the tool.  Not ID.  You can either affirm his creation for what it is, or deny it in favor of your boy Behe and his snake oil stand.  For you unyielding desire to be "right".  

Your call, as always...and..as always, your responsibility.

I am speaking science to you.  Information proves a Creator.  I believe to a certain extent micro-evolutionary biology is used as part of the implementation of God's design.  Neo-Darwinism is what is faulty.  This is shown in Cambrian Explosion and in the fossil record.  Stephen C. Meyer wrote a book about Darwin's doubt regarding the Cambrian Explosion.  

Do you deny there is an abundance of functional information in DNA?  Do you agree that there are molecular machines that perform amazing functions at a nano-scale?  Do you believe the universe is fine-tuned?  Do you believe in the Big Bang Theory, that the universe had a beginning?


You are not speaking science. You are demonstrating your utter ignorant of the underlying principles of science. All you are doing is using what you conceive to be sciency terms to attempt to disseminate garbage from anti-science creationist hucksters masquerading as scientists before gullible fools like you. You somehow imagined that by adopting a ever more hysterical voice, repetition of the same tripe could eventually overwhelm the absurdity of the garbage you spew, and somehow overawe those with considerably deeper and broader knowledge of real science than either you or your intelligent design huckster heros.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
You don;t believe in evolutionary biology CDF..so you can;t really point to the assumption of it;s truth as proof of your hilarious cults belief that it's false.

It's a good thing this level of stupidity isn;t a requirement for christianity..or there wouldn;t be many christians in the world.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 5:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:He uses micro-evolution for some change over time and some adaptations.  The genus changes do not occur by evolution, however.  Full new information for body plans are introduced into the world.
Rubbish it's all done by evolution . and your whole attempt to hijack  REAL science in a way that does not compromise your sacred fables is just sad. Like a man trying to force a square peg into a circle

Not quite.  You are just in denial that science now proves a Creator.
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