Quote:he videos show how DNA and molecular machines work.  So why trash ID proponents?

None of it help your case . And i trash it because it's bullshit pseudoscience thought up by con men to undermine legit science and push the falsehoods of religion .

Quote:It is a really good apologetics site.

There are no good apologist sites . Apologetics is bullshit religious propaganda .

Quote:How can you call it crap without reading it?

Because it's an apologetics site. It is by definition agenda driven toward a biased conclusion

Quote:Well I hope one day you get that "way more than limited intellect is capable of" to occur. \ If reason doesn't work, it sounds like it would take something supernatural.

Reason 

Theism could not reason itself out of a paper bag .

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sup mother effers

And the mood is instantly lightened 

As only CL can

(May 16, 2018 at 9:01 pm)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 8:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What would it take for you to become a believer?

That's just the thing, we do not know, what would make you believe in Allah, Isis, Buddha, F.S.M., Zeus, Shiva, Athena, Apollo, Horus, Krishna..?
The list could get very long of course, but that is the same ridiculous question you are asking us.

But we must presume an all knowing god would indeed know what would convince us, he seems surprisingly mute on the subject, in fact exactly the same as .. Allah, Isis, Buddha, F.S.M., Zeus, Shiva, Athena, Apollo, Horus, Krishna.
 
He claims to love us on one hand yet hides on the other, the ridiculous stories in the bible, the childish claims of spiritual blindness when you cant answer a question, or the sublimely stupid need for someone to die to save us from a god who can simply decree anything really is beyond any rational.

But like all other religions is simply make up, a myth easily discarded in these days of greater knowledge I know you cannot see it any more than a Muslim, or Hindu or Buddhist..etc.  Because you have accepted theology, you have accepted anything as truth regardless of it being rational or not.
But yours is worse than what you call spiritual blindness it is the wilful rejection of the science you see around you. Not hidden, not a mystery but there for all to see.  You cling to what theology tells you to believe about science, If you stuck to science you would not make such silly leaps.

I've already looked into those other religions.  They are all flawed with creation stories, science, Allah being the greatest deceiver he claims,...  Many of these are just part of the mystery cults.

It is God's will though, not your will.  Science has strong evidence of design, like I said.  I would be concerned about that if I were you.

Buddah had no creation story.  Allah claims to be the greatest deceiver in the Quran and the science is jacked up in the Quran.  The Hindu creation story makes no sense.

There are apologetics that can explain Christianity very well and match it up with science.  I accept the science seen around me.  The only issue we seem to be having about science is with neo-Darwinism.  I believe in micro-evolution and not macro-evolution.  That is the major difference which I believe there is sound evidence for.

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:You are not even watching the videos I am posting or reading the links.

There is no point none of it helps you 

Quote:  Some of it may be new.  

None of it is new

Quote:The videos are short for the most part and incredible. 

None of it helps you

Quote: They show how DNA and molecular machines function.

None of it makes your case

The videos help a lot to understand the amazing world of DNA and the cell.

It might be new to you.  You don't know unless you watch it.  

It does help.

It supports my claims.

(May 16, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've already looked into those other religions.  They are all flawed.

Ironically, if you had been born into one of those cultures, you would believe as it does while considering Christianity as flawed as you currently consider other religions.

(May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sup mother effers

What's up. Nice another Christian.  Not sure how many of us exist on this site but it doesn't seem like many.  This is a rough crowd, LOL.

(May 16, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sup mother effers

curious minds want to know; Here to fish with the op or here to just observe?

Milestone; 250 passed, 300 will likely be achieved by tomorrow. [Longest rest; 12 minutes]

Just here to see whatzzz goin' on brotha from anotha motha!!!!

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sup mother effers

What's up. Nice another Christian.  Not sure how many of us exist on this site but it doesn't seem like many.  This is a rough crowd, LOL.

Haha. I think there's like 5 or so of us. Two Muslims. Anyway, welcome! Looks like you got a hot thread going.

(May 16, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sup mother effers

curious minds want to know; Here to fish with the op or here to just observe?

Milestone; 250 passed, 300 will likely be achieved by tomorrow. [Longest rest; 12 minutes]

I hope she is here to help.  You guys almost got me worn down...LOL.  That's an almost.

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:18 pm)Kit Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've already looked into those other religions.  They are all flawed.

Ironically, if you had been born into one of those cultures, you would believe as it does while considering Christianity as flawed as you currently consider other religions.  

Not necessarily.  I could have been predestined to have the gift of faith as described in Scripture.

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: curious minds want to know; Here to fish with the op or here to just observe?

Milestone; 250 passed, 300 will likely be achieved by tomorrow. [Longest rest; 12 minutes]

Just here to see whatzzz goin' on brotha from anotha motha!!!!

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(May 16, 2018 at 9:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What's up. Nice another Christian.  Not sure how many of us exist on this site but it doesn't seem like many.  This is a rough crowd, LOL.

Haha. I think there's like 5 or so of us. Two Muslims. Anyway, welcome! Looks like you got a hot thread going.

Only 5 remaining...I guess I can see why.  Thanks for the welcome!  It's a crazy thread; I think my new found friends are trying to beat me into submission...LOL

(May 16, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've already looked into those other religions.  They are all flawed with creation stories, science, Allah being the greatest deceiver he claims,...  Many of these are just part of the mystery cults.

It is God's will though, not your will.  Science has strong evidence of design, like I said.  I would be concerned about that if I were you.

Buddah had no creation story.  Allah claims to be the greatest deceiver in the Quran and the science is jacked up in the Quran.  The Hindu creation story makes no sense.

See now here's our problem, they would just be as absolutely convinced as you about their religions, and say similar things about yours.

It's the good old it's gods. Allah's, Shiva's, will thing.. etc etc.. means nothing.  Bottom line is you are all theists of all religions utterly convinced and when cornered on evidence pull out your god and say '' It's  *insert your gods name* will* you have to have a supernatural awakening.

These tactics are also known more widely as 'Goddidit''

(May 16, 2018 at 9:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Only 5 remaining...I guess I can see why.  Thanks for the welcome!  It's a crazy thread; I think my new found friends are trying to beat me into submission...LOL

She mentioned nothing about "remaining". The few theists we have here are long-term members, been here years.

(May 16, 2018 at 9:32 pm)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've already looked into those other religions.  They are all flawed with creation stories, science, Allah being the greatest deceiver he claims,...  Many of these are just part of the mystery cults.

It is God's will though, not your will.  Science has strong evidence of design, like I said.  I would be concerned about that if I were you.

Buddah had no creation story.  Allah claims to be the greatest deceiver in the Quran and the science is jacked up in the Quran.  The Hindu creation story makes no sense.

See now here's our problem, they would just be as absolutely convinced as you about their religions, and say similar things about yours.

It's the good old it's gods. Allah's, Shiva's, will thing.. etc etc.. means nothing.  Bottom line is you are all theists of all religions utterly convinced and when cornered on evidence pull out your god and say '' It's  *insert your gods name* will* you have to have a supernatural awakening.

These tactics are also known more widely as 'Goddidit''

Some of them probably did not do the amount of research I did. Allah is called a great deceiver throughout the Quran and he is proud of it. My Bible says the devil is the greatest deceiver. Buddah sat under a tree and figured out how not to care. Hindus have a fairy tale creation story, Osiris is the sun god which is an inanimate object inside the universe,...

It is God's will.  He created the universe and all living things.  I don't have to say that too often but there are times for it.  If I created a universe, say in a computer simulation, it would be my will how I deal with the universe and the creatures in it.

Quote:The videos help a lot to understand the amazing world of DNA and the cell.

I understand DNA and cells more then you buddy . Neither helps your case . All just fallacies 

Quote:It might be new to you.  You don't know unless you watch it.  

There is nothing you can show that i have not already seen . And it does not help your case 

Quote:It does help.

Nope it does not help your fallacies in the slightest  

Quote:
It supports my claims.

Nope it does not support a single claim you make . Neither helps ID . All fallacies.