All praise be to allah, designer of all....


oops, sorry, wrong fairytale.

(May 18, 2018 at 4:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: God chose to allow Himself only human powers to show Jacob how far he had come as a leader.  He could have dislocated Jacob's hip by just touching it but chose not to just a Jesus didn't use His omniscience, ominpotence,...., when He was here as a man.  He showed Jacob the power he has from his days in exile.  God was only using human powers.  See more information at https://goodquestionblog.com/2014/03/27/...ing-match/.

Judah could not drive out the chariots.  If God used His almighty power He could have driven them out.

No, killing children is murder unless it is done in self-defense.  No, it is not just to kill babes in arms.  Children die due to sin and the fall of man.  

No, human sacrifice is not just except when God sacrificed Himself as the Son of Man.

Essentially then exactly the same as no god. no jesus and no fall, but an evolution of mankind who then went and made silly stories up.

Quote:I don't believe that. The operations in the cell are nothing short of miraculous.

Does not matter what you believe, people believe all manner of silly stuff (see above), all that matters is what you can prove which sadly so far you have been unable to show either I.D.. or the miraculous.

CDF47 Wrote:DNA contains information.  Information always comes from an intelligence.  DNA information is designed.

Can you give an example of something that doesn't contain information?

Isaiah 45:7

2 Kings 6:33

Job 2:10

Lamentations 3:38

Amos 3:6

All state that god is the source of evil.

CDF47 Wrote:Explain the Cambrian Explosion.  There was an explosion of life over 10 years (mainly over 5 years) with no successive intermediaries.  16 life forms were found.  How did that happen.  These were brand new body plans.

The 'Cambrian Explosion' lasted 20-25 MILLION years, for starters. Here's a link on the off chance you actually want to someday have a clue what you're talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion

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CDF47 Wrote:The universe had a beginning from nothing to the best of our knowledge.  So no information.  The universe will also suffer a death.  The information is then finite.

You've been told over and over that we DON'T KNOW the origin of what expanded prior to the initial expansion. 'From quantum foam' is ONE possibility, but nothing has been proven. There are models in which the universe in one form or another has existed forever. It's certainly existed since time began in our cosmos. You'd have to be pretty thick not to be able to absorb the concept that our best knowledge is that we don't know.

The 'death' of the universe won't keep it from expanding and containing photons, the current model has it going on eternally as an ever-expanding cloud of photons growing ever farther apart. Nothing will be able to live in it, but it will exist for eternity.

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CDF47 Wrote:The environment has no intelligence to it and cannot create the amazing machines we see in ID.  It takes a mind to do that.  The entire environment is designed anyway. 

Prove ANY of that and you'll be one of the most famous people in history. It's just a pile of unsupported assertions. And if you accept 'microevolution' you HAVE to accept that information can come from the environment via natural selection, because that's what it is, organisms becoming more adapted to their ENVIRONMENT because the ENVIRONMENT favors the reproductive success of some members of a species over other variations. Were you lying about accepting 'microevolution'?

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Kit Wrote:It would first be nice to prove that a god exists.

His creation proves His work.

We've gone over the formal fallacy of affirming the consequent before. I've met 12 year-olds who can understand why it's fallacious.

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CDF47 Wrote:He gave them free will to obey Him or not.  They chose not to.  He told them if they ate of it, they would surely die.

In fact, God told them that they would die the same day they ate it. But they didn't, supposedly they lived for centuries after.

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CDF47 Wrote:He gave them free will to love and obey Him.  That is not an abusive relationship.

Honey, it's okay, you don't have to love me, you have free will, after all. But if you DON'T love me I'll kill you!

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CDF47 Wrote:There is a lot of misinformation here and verses taken out of context.

God always knows where Adam is.  He is talking to Adam in the next verse.  Adam tried to hide from God.

And God pretended to not know where he was, which was dishonest.

CDF47 Wrote:

Abaddon_ire Wrote:You have called me and my family sinners worthy of death for simply existing. You don't care how difficult it is for a trans person to get on in the world, you have stated that it would be moral to kill such a person. You have stated that this is what your god wants. And that you are OK with such a course of action.

Now that you learn that my eldest is trans-gender, you find your only route is to try to back out of the scumbaggery you already espoused as though it never happened. What to be scandalised further? My eldest is girl to boy transgender, and is dating a boy to girl transgender person. No biggy to me.

You want to kill both of them.

You are a horrible person. Live with it.

Being sinners is the ultimate truth.  

I didn't say we should kill him. That was an OT law which is not in affect in the US.  The Lord lets the governments of the world make the laws of the land.  If believe it is sinful though and he should repent.

Meanwhile a sadistic torture-murderer like Dennis Rader (BTK Killer) gets perfectly healthy children.

CDF47 Wrote:

Khemikal Wrote:Seems to me that our poor unfortunate soul is only a christian because he didn;t realize that every other pantheon has a creator god too.  One story short of being a believing pagan.  How sad.

Osiris and Ra for instance are sun gods.  They live within the realm of the universe.  That are fake pagan gods.  Some of the other pagan myths have fairy tales as their creation story like the Norse myths.

Ptah is the Egyptian creator god, so there's that.

You know CDF - you are an atheist too. You just believe in one more god than we do and you discard those gods that you don't believe in, just as we discard all gods.

/thread.

You are welcome.

CDF47 Wrote:

Khemikal Wrote:Meh, I don;t think so, but why would it matter if it were sad?  It;s not as if I could think otherwise.  Maybe that;s just the way god made me?  To stand up to people like you who say absurd and horrid shit about him even though I don;t and can;t believe or bend the knee?

I guess it is your choice.  You know if you are wrong on this one it won't look good for you.

You sound like you think your creator is a Mafia Don and you're the thug he sends to make sure people pay their protection money: Nice soul ya got there...it'd be a shame if something...BAD...happened to it.

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CDF47 Wrote:I guess it is your choice.  You know if you are wrong on this one it won't look good for you.

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Amusing that you can't see the irony in that.




Well, higher forms of comedy are lost on religitards.  A pie-in-the-face is about the extent of your humor.

Quote:I don't have time to read all those.  Can you just post a brief summary of each.

No