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(May 30, 2018 at 2:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: Something else about that period I always found fascinating.  There is a long catalogue of Sea People conquests along both the northern and southern coasts of the Mediterranean and also on Levantine coast, except for the Phoenician cities of Sidon, Byblos and Tyre.  Somehow, they managed to avoid being attacked and emerged as an intact power on the coast for a while.  I wonder, did they bribe the Sea Peoples..... or hire them as mercenaries to attack their enemies?

Magic book certainly harbors a grudge against the first-born of Canaan, children of Ham...descendants of "Noah" himself and various worshippers of El since the neolothic.... for some ancient post-water themed offense, lol.  Sidon being a namesake, Byblos of city of traitorous egyptian collaborators, and Tyre.....well...we all know how they felt about the dirty rednecks in the interior.

Regardless of whether or not they did bribe or hire the sea peoples..they certainly would have tried..and it would be the cultural and ethnic ancestors of the later pastoralist and levite sources that felt the brunt of that. The irony of all of this is that letting the physical history of the region be instructive as to the origins of the narrative in magic book contextualizes it and grants it sorely lacking credibility.....but thats the one thing anyone asserting that magic book is history as told simply cannot or will not do.

(May 24, 2018 at 9:54 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So the ancient Israelites have suffered slavery in Egypt until a certain Mr. Moses frees them.

To get free, they witness the plagues of Egypt.

While fleeing they witness Moses part the Red Sea, and drown the Egyptian army.

Then, after a few days, Moses wanders up a mountain to get his rocks off, and the moment he turns his back, they're off creating new gods!

They witnessed these events and still chose to create new gods and idols the moment Moses buggered off for a quick wank!

So, were the ancient Israelites really that fucking stupid...

..or, perhaps, is the story a complete work of fiction?

I use to think the SAME thing!

Till I saw myself doing the same things over and over. (just like the jews.)

I've look at Christ in the eye I've had an 'messenger' lay out my life and what God has planned for me I've felt the blessings of God where I have been given far more than what my station in life is usually compensated for. and I've been rewarded in supernatural ways. healing/sickness taken away, protect from a burst appendix saw me through an Hiv and cancer scare, been given money by strangers out of the blue who 'felt God urge them to do so.' and still I sin, still I complain still I get scared when things don't happen on my time table... Just like the jews do. Which means a signs and wonder based relationship is not what God wants for us to have with Him. or at least that can not be the foundation. Sings and wonders will come but not before you can use the bible and identify who the gift giver is by the type of gift and it consequence and the ability to give it back if the gift is not of God.

Understand what I mean here.. We will never be greater than the jews who doubted God despite all that they saw and experienced first hand until we yield to Him..

Believe it or not the 'science' defence is not a new one. just replace the word 'science' with the name of any other God and you have a viable defense to explain away what you do not want to hear or see about the God of the bible. That is all the Jews did. loo at what they did with the spoils of egypt as soon as they were parked a few days when Moses went to speak with God. The built a golden calf to thank that God for delivering them from egypt.. Why? because no one had heard of the God of moses, and despite all they saw they simply explained away all the God of moses did and gave credit to "science/the golden calf" they had always worshiped. Sound familiar?

No matter what God does now it is identified by science as a known or unknown phenomena and dismissed.

In short the jews were as smart as we are, and like the jews we learned to redirect praise from God, and give it to anything we want to worship over God of the bible

You need to make up your mind.  Either god has changed his mind about this "signs and wonders" bit..or he;s still at it..theyre just not as miraculous as they used to be. 

What;s the problem..god getting a bit low energy in his old age?

As a side note..do you find it at all troubling that the story you based this nonsense on is utter fantasy?

You're delusional, Dripshit.  See a doctor.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:09 am)Whitewolf Wrote: Jews are still a huge problem today. Seems like everywhere they go they're conniving people and subverting nations.

You're not going to last long here, you stupid fuck. I realize that you're just trolling, but you're still saying vile things. Grow up, numbnuts.

(May 29, 2018 at 5:09 am)Whitewolf Wrote: Jews are still a huge problem today. Seems like everywhere they go they're conniving people and subverting nations.

Lol, Zen Klassen, is that you?

Bingo

(May 30, 2018 at 12:56 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 5:09 am)Whitewolf Wrote: Jews are still a huge problem today. Seems like everywhere they go they're conniving people and subverting nations.

You're not going to last long here, you stupid fuck. I realize that you're just trolling, but you're still saying vile things. Grow up, numbnuts.

I'm sure the WLB thinks he is one of those "fine nazis."

(May 30, 2018 at 9:39 am)Khemikal Wrote: You need to make up your mind.  Either god has changed his mind about this "signs and wonders" bit..or he;s still at it..theyre just not as miraculous as they used to be. 

What;s the problem..god getting a bit low energy in his old age?

As a side note..do you find it at all troubling that the story you based this nonsense on is utter fantasy?

Nothing has changed.

What I am saying illudues you

I'm not saying God willnot use signs and wonders to make things happen in the life of a believer.

I am saying this signs and wonders can not be your foundation. if it is then you can attribute anything God shows you to whatever you want like in the case of the jews all of God's work was contributed to the golden calf they constructed because at that time they knew next to nothing about the one true God. Or in the case of you guys if God did a bunch of miricals for one of you the rest would contribute or try to assign those things to science or assign a scientific explaination to them.. 

BUT if your foundation is based on the truth of God/who God reall is who Jesus was and the Place or role the Holy Spirit has, then God will open the flood gates to signs and wonders freely. Signs and wonders can be a fertlizer for one's faith or it can destroy what you believe about God it just depends on where you mind it and where God is in your heart in relation to where the bible says he should be.

Do you get it? one can have both in the beginning if your heart/mind is not right then signs and wonders can be poison. if you built your beliefs on the truth f God then it can make your faith grow by leaps and bounds..

Think wise man builds his house on the rock and not only whether the storm but gets to see things after the storm he would not get to see if he were rebuilding his home like the foolish man who built his house on the sand.

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(May 30, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You're delusional, Dripshit.  See a doctor.

but first tell me some more about the founding fathers and the constitution