(June 4, 2018 at 6:36 am)unsapien Wrote:

(June 4, 2018 at 1:58 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Sorry pal but Christianity hasn't invented anything. The OT was written long before Jesus was born. I'm from this world, you know the real one where sane people understand there's a God. If you want to continue to believe you are sin free then when you come before God at your judgement please keep quite.

GC

Then explain why the books that make up "the OT" aren't even the same across different Christian denominations? Maybe because different groups of humans decided (without any universal guiding force obviously) to slap together the books that they wanted to use?

As far as I know only the Catholic Bible adds a couple of books and all protestant denominations use the same Bible.

unsapien Wrote:This world where the "sane" people can't even agree on what "a god" is? The same world where people see signs on toast? Or mildew stains on walls?

I consider fanatical people on the boarder line of sanity, ie. signs on toast and walls and such. I believe most people who believe in some type of god sees that god as being superior to mankind, that would be an agreement across the board. Now as to which God is real is a different case, I know this, the God of creation and salvation came to me and I've not heard squat from any of the others.

unsapien Wrote:If your god is real, trust me I'll have nothing to say, I will not recognize his authority, if he has the power to hurt me with his infinite loving torture, there's nothing I can do about it, but he's still wrong.

  When you come before Him you will have no choices, that was forfeited when you died. So you will have no opinions, you will see the truth of who God is and know you were wrong in this life and that your punishment was made by you in this life, and there is one thing sane people do not do, torture themselves so as the Bible says you will receive the punishment that fits your sins and it will be eternal because those sins will never be payed for and will exist for all eternity. This is what the scriptures tell us, it's not me making this up. You are the one deciding right now what your eternal punishment will be, not God. He is the One who is going to let you have what you have chosen.

GC

Quote:  When you come before Him you will have no choices, that was forfeited when you died. So you will have no opinions, you will see the truth of who God is and know you were wrong in this life and that your punishment was made by you in this life, and there is one thing sane people do not do, torture themselves so as the Bible says you will receive the punishment that fits your sins and it will be eternal because those sins will never be payed for and will exist for all eternity. This is what the scriptures tell us, it's not me making this up. You are the one deciding right now what your eternal punishment will be, not God. He is the One who is going to let you have what you have chosen.

Nope it's all your gods fault by default. Good thing there is no reason to believe in such a cruel evil being just fever dreams of sociopaths

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Quote:Sorry pal but Christianity hasn't invented anything. The OT was written long before Jesus was born. I'm from this world, you know the real one where sane people understand there's a God. If you want to continue to believe you are sin free then when you come before God at your judgement please keep quite.

Utter rubbish and impotent preaching

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Quote:We are born with a sin nature and will eventually sin, God did not have anything to do with that, it's entirely on us.

Gang warfare once again, I've answered silly childish questions and comments from all 4 of you and you need no further instructions.

GC

Nope if the bible were true god is 100% responsible for sin .

(June 5, 2018 at 12:28 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:  When you come before Him you will have no choices, that was forfeited when you died. So you will have no opinions, you will see the truth of who God is and know you were wrong in this life and that your punishment was made by you in this life, and there is one thing sane people do not do, torture themselves so as the Bible says you will receive the punishment that fits your sins and it will be eternal because those sins will never be payed for and will exist for all eternity. This is what the scriptures tell us, it's not me making this up. You are the one deciding right now what your eternal punishment will be, not God. He is the One who is going to let you have what you have chosen.

Nope it's all your gods fault by default. Good thing there is no reason to believe in such a cruel evil being just fever dreams of sociopaths

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Quote:Sorry pal but Christianity hasn't invented anything. The OT was written long before Jesus was born. I'm from this world, you know the real one where sane people understand there's a God. If you want to continue to believe you are sin free then when you come before God at your judgement please keep quite.

Utter rubbish and impotent preaching

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Quote:We are born with a sin nature and will eventually sin, God did not have anything to do with that, it's entirely on us.

Gang warfare once again, I've answered silly childish questions and comments from all 4 of you and you need no further instructions.

GC

Nope if the bible were true god is 100% responsible for sin .

That had to be the best argument against God I've ever seen, NOT! You have never given an intelligent argument against God, Nope is meaningless unless you have facts to go with it.

GC

(June 5, 2018 at 12:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:   When you come before Him you will have no choices, that was forfeited when you died. So you will have no opinions, you will see the truth of who God is and know you were wrong in this life and that your punishment was made by you in this life, and there is one thing sane people do not do, torture themselves so as the Bible says you will receive the punishment that fits your sins and it will be eternal because those sins will never be payed for and will exist for all eternity. This is what the scriptures tell us, it's not me making this up. You are the one deciding right now what your eternal punishment will be, not God. He is the One who is going to let you have what you have chosen.

See, just telling us this won't actually convince us that it is true. All you can tell us is that it says so in the bible. But we don't necessarily give credence to the bible. So do you have any other evidence that not only is there a god, that consciousness exists after brain death, that there is an afterlife consisting of heaven and hell and that we'll be judged?

No. All you have is a book and your own personal delusions generated from your own brain.

So when you tell us this, all we see is someone trying to threaten us and this is why you're wasting your breath.

Quote:That had to be the best argument against God I've ever seen,NOT

Yeah i'm so going to trust your judgement on arguments against your invisible pixie  

Quote:You have never given an intelligent argument against God,

Yeah because your opinion on the quality of my arguments  is the metric i'm going to use 

 

Quote:Nope is meaningless unless you have facts to go with it.

Yeah because i'm going to trust you to accept facts against your nonsensical religion .And so rely on you to consider it meaningful 

(June 6, 2018 at 2:23 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(June 5, 2018 at 12:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:   When you come before Him you will have no choices, that was forfeited when you died. So you will have no opinions, you will see the truth of who God is and know you were wrong in this life and that your punishment was made by you in this life, and there is one thing sane people do not do, torture themselves so as the Bible says you will receive the punishment that fits your sins and it will be eternal because those sins will never be payed for and will exist for all eternity. This is what the scriptures tell us, it's not me making this up. You are the one deciding right now what your eternal punishment will be, not God. He is the One who is going to let you have what you have chosen.

See, just telling us this won't actually convince us that it is true. All you can tell us is that it says so in the bible. But we don't necessarily give credence to the bible. So do you have any other evidence that not only is there a god, that consciousness exists after brain death, that there is an afterlife consisting of heaven and hell and that we'll be judged?

No. All you have is a book and your own personal delusions generated from your own brain.

So when you tell us this, all we see is someone trying to threaten us and this is why you're wasting your breath.

 Why do you even bother answering for someone else.

 Of coarse you do not have to believe it, but if Christianity is true you are in trouble. The truth of those things are in my heart and mind as promised to me by God. It's not a threat as long as it is true and whether you choose to believe it or not will be on you. I'm not wasting my breath there are those who listen, why not you.

GC

(June 7, 2018 at 12:36 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Of coarse you do not have to believe it, but if Christianity is true you are in trouble.

And if any of the other religions or even other christian sects are true then you are in trouble.

And if none of them are true, then you've wasted a large part of your only life.

Quote: Of coarse you do not have to believe it, but if Christianity is true you are in trouble.

Not really

(June 7, 2018 at 2:13 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(June 7, 2018 at 12:36 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Of coarse you do not have to believe it, but if Christianity is true you are in trouble.

And if any of the other religions or even other christian sects are true then you are in trouble.

And if none of them are true, then you've wasted a large part of your only life.

There is only one God and I know Him so the other religions do not concern me. All Christians know salvation come through belief in Jesus Christ so there is no differing there. And wasting my life by doing for others and accomplishing many good things, I'll take that waste every day.

GC

(June 7, 2018 at 3:11 am)Godscreated Wrote: There is only one God and I know Him so the other religions do not concern me.

There is no god. You'll die and decompose. Eventually the people who remember you will die and decompose.