Quote:Israeli's live in a tiny country surrounded by much bigger countries who all want to kill them. 

Israel is a military powerhouse backed by the whole western world and has illegally taken land and launched wars of aggression against it neighbours and stockpiles illegal weapons and is up against collection of third world countries most of who made peace with it decades ago .Please stop making it seem like they are the underdog .

Quote:If you try to imagine their circumstances, 

You mean being a fanatical rogue apartheid state 

Quote:you can kind of understand why they are overly defensive and even paranoid at times.

They are not just defensive their borderline genocidal .

Quote: I imagine they feel their lives and their community literally depends on getting the message out loud and clear that they will not tolerate being messed with. 

Except the fact their the ones doing the messing with .

Quote:This is why I'm not anti Israel like a lot of liberals seem to be. 

Yeah because what on earth is there to be against 
The ethnonationalism
The war crimes
The cultural genocide 
The fact they get free pass no matter what because their America's ally (don't we condemn China for not controlling North Korea )
The illegal annexation of and occupation of other people's land (something we in the west condemn Russia for)
The censorship of a free press critical of the government's policies  
The apartheid like policies against non Jews
The fact they believe in the two state in name only 
The kidnapping and killing of political dissidents (didn't we condemn Putin for that?)
The stocking of illegal chemical weapons (didn't we invade Iraq over that)
The illegal possession of nukes(something we condemn North Korea for)
The kidnapping of foreign nationals and assassinations carried out by Israeli intelligence  

Oh and i didn't realize holocaust survivors were just evil anti Israeli liberals . But what would they know about an evil rogue state 

https://www.haaretz.com/holocaust-surviv...-1.5260588

Quote: With that being said, what happened here is clearly tragic and wrong.

It's not tragic a hurricane is tragic. it's criminal and if country like Syria had done this you would be outraged .

Tiz, I don't think supporters of Israel have any human left in them let alone the oppressors they support. I wouldn't bother too much trying - they been watching the crimes of Israel whole lives, but won't even condemn then and still support them, yeah, this is  called being outside of humanity. No point really... 

Trying to make the oppressor and oppressed on same grounding and like it's confusing, when really it's clear.

(June 6, 2018 at 4:38 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Tiz, I don't think supporters of Israel have any human left in them let alone the oppressors they support. I wouldn't bother too much trying - they been watching the crimes of Israel whole lives, but won't even condemn then and still support them, yeah, this is  called being outside of humanity. No point really... 

Trying to make the oppressor and oppressed on same grounding and like it's confusing, when really it's clear.

Well the have been brainwashed to "feel sorry for Israel" their whole lives despite it frequently doing things we would condemn the "bad guys " for .It's a sad state indeed .

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Quote:A person's survival mode is very strong. Do I think everything they do is right? No. But I do think it is human. It stems from defensiveness.

So your arguing the human nature and defensiveness is an excuse .I don't know what to say to that .Oh wait that's the justification Richard Spencer uses to justify an ethnostate .The desire to survive and human nature .

(June 6, 2018 at 4:01 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(June 5, 2018 at 10:47 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: began a sectarian warfare by inviting Iran & Hizbollah into a country that isn't theirs.

Your thugs invited Iran and Hezbollah when before even if assessing if they had a chance of taking over Syria were already declaring they would destroy Hezbollah and take over Lebanon.

When was it not  a sectarian war?

(It's only 3 minutes; telling the hellish truth of Assad's prisons from the mouth of a witness).

And you still have no shame to defend, and keep repeating the shitty sectarian crap you say?

Syria was a horror theater. Speaking against the regime meant arrest in the torture prisons Assad use to control Syrians, when inhumane fucks like you defend this monster, they are defending the actions done by this regime.

It wasn't even a war. Syrians demanded their rights, and common people -including school friends that I know- protested, hell even I protested online,didn't you check my posts for the three years before now?, but they were met with bullets and chemical weapons.

It wasn't even a war. It was the people objecting on the regime's inhumane torture and unjustified oppression. But the regime of Assad refused to respect and listen the demands of the people and leave. The protests included children, women and men from the heart of Syria. So many were young.

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Quote:He brought Russia to murder his own people, bombarded children with chemical weapons. And you support him, you fucking piece of shit?

Better then the alternative, then you scum taking over Syria and after slaughtering all minorties then unleashing war into Lebanon as pre-promised by your thugs and only reason why you had backing of US in the first place


And my cult is not going anywhere.

Who are you to decide what is better, and force it with war, torture, civilian murdering and oppression?
Who are you to claim the future reading of alternatives? Assad destroyed his country, and gave Russians and foreign Shiites the right to kill his own people.

Yet; you defend him like a parrot by repeating the same disgusting excuses we heard before from the regime and its enthusiasts.

Why do you keep ignoring the links I post for the torture admitted and recognized by Human Rights Watch in Syrian prisons, you asshole?

https://www.hrw.org/report/2015/12/16/if...facilities

Your cult is already dying, it can only survive by terrorizing people with prisons and torture, and by killing anybody who discusses change. Your "way of keeping order" is exposed by Human Rights Watch and Syrian survivors, even if inhumane sectarian thorns like you tried to justify oppression, death and pain of innocents.

Your cult is hated more than ever before in the Levant for the infamous, disgusting stances it took during -and before- the Syrian war. But the Syrian war took the pants down and exposed its disgusting shitty ass.

Here's the link again so you don't forget looking at the results of your chosen cult's achievements:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea...8420150310

How do you sleep at night is beyond me. You can't smell yourself?

Out of curiosity, when you are looking for world news/current events, what site do you use?

(oops, this was directed at MK)

(June 5, 2018 at 9:20 am)Chad32 Wrote: We need new allies, if Israel and Saudi Arabia are the best we have in the middle east.

They are all fucked up in the middle East.

Assad may have destroyed his country, but he saved the region from the likes of stupid murderous thugs. You sold yourself to the devil, what did you expect? We would give you Syria so you attack us in Lebanon like you promised?

Unfortunately the US is kind of fucked up too, so there doesn't seem to be a clear end in sight. Some republicans are openly talking about using the Libya model on North Korea. I guess they're hoping Kim doesn't know the Libya model was getting Qaddafi to give up his nukes, and then toppling him when he no longer had a deterrent.

(June 6, 2018 at 11:35 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Assad may have destroyed his country, but he saved the region from the likes of stupid murderous thugs. You sold yourself to the devil, what did you expect? We would give you Syria so you attack us in Lebanon like you promised?

Who are "we"? Who do you "refer your speech to"?

We know that you are a "Shiite", but who are "we"?

Atlas, your trying to paint what is not.

In 1979 a revolution happened. Now I neither agree with WF nor a clergy class nor Taqleed. But that is what people of Iran chose.

And Iran policy was in the region, people should CHOOSE their form of government and revolt against dictators, and this includes Assad.

This is not the issue, that we don't want people to have their government. But when US and Israel and Sauidi Arabia (may God curse the oppressors and their supporters) all have been trying to stop this type of revolutions happening in the region.... you got to at least raise an eye brow when now they are supporting a so called revolution that it's been doing everything to squash in the region since Iranian revolution.

You have to be at least suspicious. But you want even go that far, because you are so blinded by your hate to Ali and the Imammate, that you don't see what we been trying to do for everyone not just Muslims, but all oppressed around the world.

We want people to be free, but what Syria was not going to be free, it was going to be hijacked by a people who would not only murder the minorities, but their whole purpose and what they promised early on is to attack Hezbollah.

Who in their right mind makes such intentions manifest? Stupid people, and I'm glad God makes his enemies stupid.

And we had no choice. This was not the type of revolution we support and no our revolutions were never meant to be all Shiite governments or anything like that....

But they were not meant to be a tool for the Devi's forces to attack other Muslims and cause a regional chaotic war, and all praise to God Lebanon and the region was saved.

And part of the havoc that ensued was ISIS in Iraq. The weapons all flowed from one group to the other allied to it, and allied to that was ISIS. And the weapons flowed to them purposely and just to keep US hands supposedly innocent from the ISIS crimes in Iraq.

Make God wake you guys up to your real enemies.