(June 25, 2018 at 3:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 8:31 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: BBQadon.

I like you raw.

I would never leave the kids, they're too handy as a distraction.

It is strange that YECs here never go deeper and tell us why is there a world wide "deception" of teaching people this of biological evolution. I mean how can something so obviously "false" be accepted by so many people if not even a majority? What could hold such "negative" power?

Nevertheless I scooped trough some Christian book preview on Amazon on flat Earth and he pretty much rolls out the pains YECs on this forum feel but don't want to say out loud - you see what word you can switch with "evolution" to see that it comes to the same thing, although he also rails against evolution

(June 25, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Cathooloo Wrote:

(June 23, 2018 at 11:32 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I love it whenever I hear atheists speak of alt.atheism. Usenet - The frontier days of the internet! I wonder how many people here were not even born when usenet was in its heyday. I kind of miss those days because everyone on the net back then was computer-savvy. There was none of the Facebook crowd.

Heh, I had usenet delivered via uucp on dialup back in the early 90's.

Then came AOL and Endless September and I bailed on it.

I used to use a dial-up 300-baud modem on a Radio Shack computer in the early 80s, but I digress. But, this thread is starting to go off the rails anyways.

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(June 24, 2018 at 9:59 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The term creation scientist is an oxymoron .They may have credentials in science but they do not act like scientists .

If there is a true scientist who is also a creationist, they are likely thinking (or, even being led by) their wiener.

(June 24, 2018 at 9:59 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The term creation scientist is an oxymoron .They may have credentials in science but they do not act like scientists .

They may act like scientists, but does not deal creditably with the relevant fields in science.

There is a subtle distinction between those who only practice certain crafts associated with science, and in some cases very proficiently, thus achieve creditable scientific results, and those who does not pick and chose when to practice the craft of science to get grants and when to practice the art of wishthinking when it feels comfortable.

(June 25, 2018 at 6:54 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 9:59 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: The term creation scientist is an oxymoron .They may have credentials in science but they do not act like scientists .

They may act like scientists, but does not deal creditably with the relevant fields in science.

There is a subtle distinction between those who only practice certain crafts associated with science, and in some cases very proficiently, thus achieve creditable scientific results, and those who does not pick and chose when to practice the craft of science to get grants and when to practice the art of wishthinking when it feels comfortable.

I consider their their inconsistency in that regard  unscientific

(June 25, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 21, 2018 at 7:41 am)Jehanne Wrote: Just curious; any of our Christian friends who believe in a <10K year old Earth and/or Universe, the type who also believe (as I was taught growing-up) that humans and dinosaurs not only coexisted but also cohabited?

dinosaurs and humans cohabitating is not just a religious idea. Matter of fact there are creatures that span the distance between dino-dominated periods and now. It is not too much of a stretch (unless your a closed minded baffone) that a few more held out and lived past the eve of the dinosaurs and the dawn of man.

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Do you accept the K-T event from 65M BCE:

Wikipedia -- Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event

(June 25, 2018 at 8:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: dinosaurs and humans cohabitating is not just a religious idea. Matter of fact there are creatures that span the distance between dino-dominated periods and now. It is not too much of a stretch (unless your a closed minded baffone) that a few more held out and lived past the eve of the dinosaurs and the dawn of man.

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Do you accept the K-T event from 65M BCE:

Wikipedia -- Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event

K–T extinction, abbreviation of Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction, also called K–Pg extinction or Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction, a global extinction event responsible for eliminating approximately 80 percent of all species of animals at or very close to the boundary between the Cretaceous and , about 66 million years ago.

Why not 79% or 75% or even 50%? and who says they had to all go in an instant? Rather why not have the K-T be it's own era? a 100,000,000 year event that see the end of paleogene periods and the introduction of a few others..

Because if the period ends with a meteor or some quick flash done event, and everythng but a small few survive, that would mean evolution had to work overtime to introduce the next era. OR let say the dominant creatures who were kings after the k-t extinction actually existed durning the paleogene periods?

Again we have example who lived through those periods and are alive now!

That's a "Yes," then?

(June 26, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote: That's a "Yes," then?

It's neither. It's acknowledgement that such a theory exists, but I do call into question the accelerated evolutionary timeline needed for the next period to be on time. Meaning more animals survived the Kt event that what was estimated. which means animals thought lost at a moment in time may have carried on 100's of thousands of years longer than predicted.

I am also saying that there are other theories scientific in nature that do a lot better job explaining the fossil record than darwinism.