(July 29, 2018 at 9:39 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Jim Jones kept people physically locked up. It was like a mini north Korea on steroids. To compare Trump's followers to Jim Jones is either to be ignorant of Jim Jones cult or just be trolling.

Holy shit! Locked up? You don’t say..

Jones didn't begin with locking people away give Trump another 2 years to get to that . But even if it could be argued that he's on the level of Jones he's a cult leader and his followers are a cult .

(July 29, 2018 at 9:39 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: But the Jim Jones cult is something so completely different. http://casefilepodcast.com/case-60-jonestown-part-1/

That doesn't actually exonerate the cult of Trump and cult followers like yourself, but thanks for trying. Better luck next time.

(July 29, 2018 at 11:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(July 29, 2018 at 9:39 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: But the Jim Jones cult is something so completely different. http://casefilepodcast.com/case-60-jonestown-part-1/

That doesn't actually exonerate the cult of Trump and cult followers like yourself, but thanks for trying. Better luck next time.

I'm not a Trump follower. I voted for Gary Johnson and will vote Democrat next election unless the run a military hawk, ala Clinton. I just don't participate in the game where you try to say the most outrageous thin possible about the opposition.

If you think Trump's followers can in anyway be compared to Jim Jones, much less are 'very similar' you need to present evidence, the starting point needs to be a base level of knowledge about the Jim Jones cult. Which is obviously lacking, other than just knowing it's bad.

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(July 29, 2018 at 9:58 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 29, 2018 at 9:39 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Jim Jones kept people physically locked up. It was like a mini north Korea on steroids. To compare Trump's followers to Jim Jones is either to be ignorant of Jim Jones cult or just be trolling.

Holy shit! Locked up? You don’t say..

He kept his followers locked up. You guys seriously don't know anything about the Jones cult. It's a rediculous comparison. Saying something like this I pretty much the same as pizzagate.

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Here is the ultimate irony of it all. Is that for you guys, you either have to agree with all the negative stuff said about Trump, regardless of the rationality of it or even the truth of it, elsewise I'm one of them and all the bad things you are talking about.

That is cult like thinking if there ever was any.

(July 28, 2018 at 5:01 pm)Cecelia Wrote:

(June 27, 2018 at 10:03 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Hey at least I'm honest about it! I just don't believe in large government. I think much of it should be privatized such as education, ems and healthcare. At a bare minimum I believe government should serve only a few purposes. That is protect it's people, and it's people's rights. I just want my weed and guns.

BUT....that is how I feel. Don't hurt me

Education being privatized is the WORST idea ever.  And why I'd never vote Libertarian.  Yes, let's make something like education based solely on how much you can afford.  Let institutions come in and defraud parents of their money by creating crappy schools that aren't held to any standards because "Small Government."  Cause you know... that's what we already have with for-profit institutions.  

Maybe you should get off that weed, I think it's done too much brain damage already.  Either that, or you got your degree from University of Phoenix.  Maybe both.

Wow, touchy! And no, I didn't get a degree from UofP. I'm actually graduating from University of Arizona later this year. There is really no need to get personal.

(July 30, 2018 at 10:56 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Wow, touchy! And no, I didn't get a degree from UofP. I'm actually graduating from University of Arizona later this year. There is really no need to get personal.

So you're attending a public University, and want to privatize education?  If privatized education is so great, why not attend one of the many for-profit institutions instead of a public university?

(July 30, 2018 at 11:05 am)Cecelia Wrote:

(July 30, 2018 at 10:56 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Wow, touchy! And no, I didn't get a degree from UofP. I'm actually graduating from University of Arizona later this year. There is really no need to get personal.

So you're attending a public University, and want to privatize education?  If privatized education is so great, why not attend one of the many for-profit institutions instead of a public university?

Not sure, honestly. But still doesn't change my mind about privatizing it. You do realize that universities, especially public one's take in a TON of money from PRIVATE donors though, right?

(July 30, 2018 at 11:11 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Not sure, honestly. But still doesn't change my mind about privatizing it. You do realize that universities, especially public one's take in a TON of money from PRIVATE donors though, right?

And?  That's totally meaningless.

Surely if you support privatizing education you'll speak with your wallet and not with your words.  I mean why not attend the University of Phoenix?  I mean that's what you want MY kids to have to do, except at the middle and grade school level.  You seem to have no problem forcing MY kids to go to a for-profit institution, when you won't choose one for yourself?  Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that.

(July 30, 2018 at 11:13 am)Cecelia Wrote:

(July 30, 2018 at 11:11 am)Libertarian God Wrote: Not sure, honestly. But still doesn't change my mind about privatizing it. You do realize that universities, especially public one's take in a TON of money from PRIVATE donors though, right?

And?  That's totally meaningless.

Surely if you support privatizing education you'll speak with your wallet and not with your words.  I mean why not attend the University of Phoenix?  I mean that's what you want MY kids to have to do, except at the middle and grade school level.  You seem to have no problem forcing MY kids to go to a for-profit institution, when you won't choose one for yourself?  Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that.

UofA was the only option I had. It's a great school and is close to home. However, in the near future I believe education should be privatized at least below college. A lot more would get done. Teacher pay would be more competitive and so on. Public universities seem to operate just fine. But of course private education if made possible should be affordable, but this would lead to it being competitive thus lowering the costs. Anyways, you sound kind of crazy and like a radical. I'm done with you.

(July 30, 2018 at 11:18 am)Libertarian God Wrote: You sound crazy. I'm done here.

I'm not the one that wants to privatize education.   You're the one who wants a small government, with little to no regulations where they do nothing but spend money on the military.  (Apparently we don't need a well educated military.  Just ones that know how to pull the trigger)

When you privatize education, you get for-profit schools.  That's exactly what we have now at the college level.  Libertarians LOVE preaching how they want to privatize everything.  I wonder how many of them are happy using public roads, going to public universities, and enjoying other benefits of bigger government than they want, while wanting to take away those benefits from others?

Not everyone can afford some big fancy private school.  So, law of the market demands that new schools pop up.  And we've already seen how Charter Schools do (hint: many of them are failing at an astounding rate).  And we already see how for-profit schools work at the university level.  Yet they're still successful.

So I wonder why Libertarians, who want others to have to send their kids to for-profit schools decide to choose school that aren't for-profit for themselves.