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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 5:57 am
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(August 10, 2018 at 10:32 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m not critisizing science, only scientism.
I don't know any clearer indication that someone doesn't know what they're talking about than when they're using the word "scientism", like: "You know you constantly need evidence and I don't have anything against evidence just evidencism."
You are basically criticizing people for not seeing something that even you don't know they should supposed to see by means that even you don't know they were supposed to use. If you think there is something that we should see then discover it by yourself, including the means to do it.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 7:29 am
(August 11, 2018 at 5:57 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 10, 2018 at 10:32 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m not critisizing science, only scientism.
I don't know any clearer indication that someone doesn't know what they're talking about than when they're using the word "scientism", like: "You know you constantly need evidence and I don't have anything against evidence just evidencism."
You are basically criticizing people for not seeing something that even you don't know they should supposed to see by means that even you don't know they were supposed to use. If you think there is something that we should see then discover it by yourself, including the means to do it.
I’m mostly talking about the principles and methodologies here. And less so, about making a case towards a particular conclusion.
I also think that you should probably look up what scientism is, because this makes no sense. You should be able to quickly find a number of articles that tell you why people are against it, and that it is not about being against science.
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 8:01 am
(August 11, 2018 at 7:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m mostly talking about the principles and methodologies here. And less so, about making a case towards a particular conclusion.
I also think that you should probably look up what scientism is, because this makes no sense. You should be able to quickly find a number of articles that tell you why people are against it, and that it is not about being against science.
Scientism is a meaningless word which people that are angry at reality use.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 10:16 am
(August 11, 2018 at 8:01 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 11, 2018 at 7:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m mostly talking about the principles and methodologies here. And less so, about making a case towards a particular conclusion.
I also think that you should probably look up what scientism is, because this makes no sense. You should be able to quickly find a number of articles that tell you why people are against it, and that it is not about being against science.
Scientism is a meaningless word which people that are angry at reality use.
Lol...ok
I still don’t think you know what it means. Also, I’m not angry at reality at all
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 10:31 am
(August 11, 2018 at 10:16 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Lol...ok
I still don’t think you know what it means. Also, I’m not angry at reality at all
Not at your own personal reality, naturally.
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 10:59 am
(August 11, 2018 at 10:16 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Lol...ok
I still don’t think you know what it means. Also, I’m not angry at reality at all
Indeed. How can one be angry at something one has never met?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Carry on  )
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 12:01 pm
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Yeah, when will people wake up, throw away scientism and see the universe as it really looks like:
![[Image: LgGhIorR_o.jpg]](https://images2.imgbox.com/a7/a4/LgGhIorR_o.jpg)
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 1:10 pm
(June 25, 2018 at 11:02 pm)ignoramus Wrote: ![[Image: 2cw1ak.jpg]](https://i.imgflip.com/2cw1ak.jpg)
(June 26, 2018 at 1:41 am)Minimalist Wrote: Praise be.
![[Image: latest?cb=20120417171323]](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/rsroleplay/images/c/c0/He-boiled-for-your-sins-320.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120417171323) You both will have front row chairs at the eternal buffet.
RAmen
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Conservative trigger warning.
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 2:13 pm
Quote:Lol...ok
I still don’t think you know what it means. Also, I’m not angry at reality at all
Yes he does it's what mystics and cranks use to denounce science probing their subject.It's not they think science can't do it .It's the fact they are scared science will do it.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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RE: Atheism
August 11, 2018 at 2:31 pm
(August 11, 2018 at 10:31 am)Kit Wrote: (August 11, 2018 at 10:16 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Lol...ok
I still don’t think you know what it means. Also, I’m not angry at reality at all
Not at your own personal reality, naturally.
Reality is objective  There isn’t one for me, and another for you.
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