(September 17, 2011 at 11:32 pm)Liu Bei mixed with Leondias Wrote:

(September 17, 2011 at 11:26 pm)IATIA Wrote: Been there, done that. I am sorry, but maybe we can help you to see the light.

I would argue YOU need to see the light but thats a fight for another day. Or if you perfer we could debate it in the Religion-->Creationism forum but something tells me you won't.

You would be wrong on both counts, but right now I am already chewing on someone. As soon as I spit them out I will jump in.

(BTW You do realize that my statement was a reference to my catholic upbringing)

Quote:Hmm... It seems you have never had a compatant philosopher and open minded Catholic. Well, I suppose you have but never had took the time to listen to him/her.

Why on earth would I want to do that on an internet forum with some semi-literate who can't spell 'competent'?. I did that in real life,more than once, with real theologians. Last time was with a good friend who happened to be a Passionist priest. He handed me my head. That doesn't make him right (necessarily) only clever and more mentally agile than me.

Presuppositional theological sophistry is no substitute for evidence.


I gather you did nor bother to read or did not grasp what what I wrote earlier. I reiterate, but with less delicacy:

(1) I do not argue with apologists. I consider them intellectually dishonest,arguing from a position of personal certitude . I am a skeptic, I do not claim to 'know' anything,I merely opine .Hence ,agnostic+atheist. I make no claims, and therefore have no burden of proof. You are the one making the claims,which begin with "I believe----" The burden of proof is yours,100%.


(2) I reject the notion that truth may be discovered by reason alone:I demand (credible) evidence.

(3) Show me your evidence or fuck off.

(September 17, 2011 at 11:39 pm)Shell B Wrote: What's a Catholic?

An idiot who thinks this cocksucker



is infallible.

(September 18, 2011 at 12:55 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 17, 2011 at 11:39 pm)Shell B Wrote: What's a Catholic?

An idiot who thinks this cocksucker



is infallible.

Let's not forget that Catholics are also defenders of child rape and molestation... by default, but still..

I feel icky just thinking about it, and I am a godless heathen.

Quote:Let's not forget that Catholics are also defenders of child rape and molestation... by default, but still..

NO, they are morally culpable for tolerating it.

On an official level,the Church still believes canon law trumps civil law,as it did for centuries.IE civil authorities could not judge or condemn clergy for ANY offence.

Quote:and I am a godless heathen.

Good for you , Alei.

I'm sure there a more than a handful atheists here who grew up Catholic,
I'm a non believer now, an atheist now

I grew up Catholic because my parents forced me.
Now that I quit believing in God, I feel "saved" more than ever now!

Wow...Chinese Emperor mixed with a Hanovian gelding???

Sorry pumpkin but I don't do gaming and I'm much older than 15yrs.

Looks like fresh chew-toys peeps

(September 17, 2011 at 11:18 pm)Liu Bei mixed with Leondias Wrote: Are there any other Catholics on this forum? I haven't looked avidly, and I am curious.

A hell of a lot of ex Catholics - well... you know: 'born' Catholic & never Christian through their own choice. I don't think there are currently any Catholics, no, although we have had a few.

A Catholic, huh?

I have waited for this day... It has annoyed me that there aren't Catholics scurrying around here.
I like pestering them...

Oh, and hello.