Nothing will rattle them. I swear. They'll follow him to his death.

(September 6, 2018 at 11:58 am)vorlon13 Wrote:

(September 6, 2018 at 8:40 am)alpha male Wrote: The first rule of Secret Cabal is, you don't talk about Secret Cabal.

This is probably the work of a low-level staffer with delusions that his actions are meaningful, or outright fiction.

If not...if it's real...you just made your mission a lot harder, and gave fuel to the Deep Staters. Dumbass.

Tipping off Trumply is logically inconsistent with the whole idea of there being organized resistance inside the politburo.

No, it’s not.   And it might be rather revealing of the attitude and world view of those who would think it is.

If you think giving voice to 50++% of your fellow countrymen who would rather trump become compost is worse than trump, despite recognizing trump being a intolerable threat to all mankind, then you would wish to keep trump in power to hurt 50++% of the country that is your true enemy while obstructing some of trump’s actions that might harm you, so you would abstruct and keep quiet.   This is undoubtedly the real view of republicunt opinion shithole for mouths at places like Fox, and fundamentally the view of evenglical Christian scumbs like Omega bitch, which regard mankind as all sinners and they are the saved.

If you think trump is worse than the 50%++ of your fellow countrymen who would rather trump become compost, and trump is a intolerable threat to all mankind, then you would obstruct trump to save mankind, and make it know trump is such a worthless and incompetent executive that his own staff feel compelled to work against him.   This would make clear just what calamitous disfunction is associated with trump and  improve the chance that the living compost would be more expeditiously turned into a dead compost, and his place taken by a representative of the 50++%.

(September 6, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Aegon Wrote: Nothing will rattle them. I swear. They'll follow him to his death.

I assume you are including the 'pub half of the senate, of which we need 2/3 to vote FOR a conviction on the appropriate indictment from the house.

So even you are acknowledging my point.

We need SOMETHING that is vetted, polished, true, accurate, impeccable, and preferably on videotape showing Trump actually doing the 'deed' that will get him shit canned.


Appreciate fully the difficulty in achieving this level of certainty. 17 'pub opponets in the nomination race couldn't do it, Hillary's flaccid campaign wasn't enough, and various groups and individuals have been flinging poo at Trumply for years and NOTHING sticks.


The magnitude of the task seems to elude the ken of ALL of the opposition, yet is beyond clear to me.


Hmmmm . . . .

It can't be Pence.  Every third word out of that moron's mouth is "jesus."

Pence is truly amazing at keeping his lips firmly in contact with Tump's delicate anal mucosa regardless of Trump's marital infidelities and whoredoms, and adulteries and philandering.

(September 6, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It can't be Pence.  Every third word out of that moron's mouth is "jesus."

Nobody would surprise me, not even him.

This is a Mafia administration.

(September 6, 2018 at 12:27 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:

(September 6, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Aegon Wrote: Nothing will rattle them. I swear. They'll follow him to his death.

I assume you are including the 'pub half of the senate, of which we need 2/3 to vote FOR a conviction on the appropriate indictment from the house.

So even you are acknowledging my point.

We need SOMETHING that is vetted, polished, true, accurate, impeccable, and preferably on videotape showing Trump actually doing the 'deed' that will get him shit canned.


Appreciate fully the difficulty in achieving this level of certainty.  17 'pub opponets in the nomination race couldn't do it, Hillary's flaccid campaign wasn't enough, and various groups and individuals have been flinging poo at Trumply for years and NOTHING sticks.


The magnitude of the task seems to elude the ken of ALL of the opposition, yet is beyond clear to me.


Hmmmm . . . .

The stuff we have thus far would have been more than enough to convince Trump supporters that a Democratic administration was fucked up. I mean, hell, he's been directly implicated in a felony and literally nothing has changed. There is no objective or critical thinking involved in their evaluation of this man. Anybody who really sat and looked at what has been presented to the public, including Trump's words himself, could see how much truth there is to all this stuff. It really bothers me how clouded their judgment is.

Look, I'm a "leftist", admittedly. But I call out Democrats for playing their bullshit politics. I can't wait for the day that I, as a New Yorker, can vote Chuck Schumer out of office. I really do tend to think objectively about these things, on a case by case basis. That being said, I can't, for the life of me, understand how Trump supporters stay by his side for any reason other than being contrarian to liberals. Which is beyond stupid.

To paraphrase and update a comment on president Reagan that received surprising reportage at the time:

Trump could anally rape Rosa Park's lifeless corpse on the steps of the Supreme Court and headline all the media for a week and still not be impeached.

(September 6, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Aegon Wrote: Nothing will rattle them. I swear. They'll follow him to his death.

Those in office sure. But lets give some Republicans credit.

Comey realized he was nuts.

Joe Scarborough has distanced himself from that asshole

Jeff Flake too.

Former RNC Chair Michael Steele agreed with the NYT move.

Not to mention the 50 former REPUBLICAN intel who said his rhetoric was dangerous during his run.

Shit, even in my personal life, my late mother was still alive during Trump's run, but even as a lifetime voting republican even she thought he was nuts, and voted for Bernie.

(September 6, 2018 at 1:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: To paraphrase an update a comment on president Reagan that received surprising reportage at the time:

Trump could anally rape Rosa Park's lifeless corpse on the steps of the Supreme Court and headline all the media for a week and still not be impeached.

If that is the case then the goal is to let every minute of trump’s stay be maximally acidic to the rest of the republican agenda from now to eternity.

If republican senate won’t convict trump before 2020, then the goal is to ensure there will never be another republican caucas in either chamber sizeable enough to prevent trump’s Supreme Court excrements from being nullified by a revision of the supreme courts from 9 to 11 or 12 justices.