(September 20, 2011 at 2:33 pm)Cinjin Wrote: My 3 year old already knows that people don't fly, walk on water, or turn water into fucking grape juice. It sounds to me like he's already ahead of you by figuring out the difference between make-believe fairy tales and reality.

That’s the whole point you dunderhead! Miracles by definition are acts that people can’t and don’t do naturally every day. I am sure your 3 year old would have no problem with the God incarnate doing things that natural men cannot.

Quote: Your not-so-subtle insult feels more like an attempt to one-up a 3year old you pathetic fucking sheep!

Unless you are only three years old I was not trying to one up or insult any three year olds; I was just pointing out that despite you pretending that you are so rational and enlightened you still seem to have great difficulties following the basic rules of logic.

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(September 20, 2011 at 2:42 pm)Shell B Wrote: Cinjin, I think a funny demot poster with the words "Everyone is Irrational!" is in order.

You have to be able to laugh at that Stat. It's becoming your tag line.

No, everyone is not irrational, just a lot of the atheists on here are. There is a simple solution to the problem though, just stop committing fallacious logic and I won't have anything to call you guys out on.

(September 20, 2011 at 2:23 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: Does anyone know the historical records he was talking about?

He made them up. Like his fucking god.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He made them up. Like his fucking god.

Wow, I didn't know Lee Strobel was the originator of the belief in God; he's older than he looks.

(September 20, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No, everyone is not irrational, just a lot of the atheists on here are. There is a simple solution to the problem though, just stop committing fallacious logic and I won't have anything to call you guys out on.

I feel like I am on a carousel where the seats are sticky and gross. It is not fun, but for some reason the ride just keeps going around and around.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(September 20, 2011 at 3:00 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He made them up. Like his fucking god.

Wow, I didn't know Lee Strobel was the originator of the belief in God; he's older than he looks.

The list of shit you don't know is staggering.

Comes from wasting too much of your time reading a book of fucking fairy tales and telling yourself it is real.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The list of shit you don't know is staggering.

Is it now? You are right, I didn’t know that Lee Strobel was the founder of both Judaism and Christianity since he "made up" Yahweh. Do you have any more fabulous tidbits of information like this that you can enlighten me with?

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(September 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm)Shell B Wrote: I feel like I am on a carousel where the seats are sticky and gross. It is not fun, but for some reason the ride just keeps going around and around.

I am not sure why you wouldn’t side with me on this one Shell. You saw him make the appeal to common sense; surely you know that an appeal to common sense is a logical fallacy, so therefore his statement there was by definition irrational. You don’t see that or you just don’t like it?

(September 20, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(September 20, 2011 at 2:33 pm)Cinjin Wrote: My 3 year old already knows that people don't fly, walk on water, or turn water into fucking grape juice. It sounds to me like he's already ahead of you by figuring out the difference between make-believe fairy tales and reality.

That’s the whole point you dunderhead! Miracles by definition are acts that people can’t and don’t do naturally every day. I am sure your 3 year old would have no problem with the God incarnate doing things that natural men cannot.

The powers that your god supposedly has are a matter of opinion, and since NO ONE has ever seen anyone with these powers, than guess what, my 3 year old is STILL AHEAD OF YOU. You might as well have just said, "of course normal people can't do these things, but every three year old knows that Superman and Aquaman are special and therefore CAN do these things!"

(September 20, 2011 at 2:53 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Unless you are only three years old I was not trying to one up or insult any three year olds; I was just pointing out that despite you pretending that you are so rational and enlightened you still seem to have great difficulties following the basic rules of logic.

Same old tired Statler bull shit. " Everyone is Irrational ACCEPT ME!"

Your logic isn't logic at all and you have always played by your own special set of rules regarding the big three: Rationale, Justice, and Logic


Sheep, your master's calling, get back to the pen where your stupidity can be shared and enjoyed with the rest of the sheep. Cause it's not wanted here.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Cinjin Wrote: The powers that your god supposedly has are a matter of opinion, and since NO ONE has ever seen anyone with these powers….

What were all the people living in Jesus’ time blind? I assure you thousands of people saw a man with these powers.

Quote: Same old tired Statler bull shit. " Everyone is Irrational ACCEPT ME!"

Not everyone is irrational on here, but you certainly are.

Quote: Your logic isn't logic at all and you have always played by your own special set of rules regarding the big three: Rationale, Justice, and Logic

Are you suggesting that an appeal to common sense is not in fact a logical fallacy? I think the problem is that you are an illogical person, so when you are faced with very powerful and logical reasoning you cry about it.

Quote: Common Sense Fallacy: an argument is held to be true because of practical truths and common sense. Common sense is sometimes correct, but all too many times all too commonly incorrect.
• We all know if it looks bad, it tastes bad. It's just common sense.

http://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm#4

Quote: Sheep, your master's calling, get back to the pen where your stupidity can be shared and enjoyed with the rest of the sheep. Cause it's not wanted here.

Not sure how calling a Christian a sheep is somehow in any way an insult, I’d rather be a sheep than a goat. Matthew 25.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:

(September 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Sheep, your master's calling, get back to the pen where your stupidity can be shared and enjoyed with the rest of the sheep. Cause it's not wanted here.

Not sure how calling a Christian a sheep is somehow in any way an insult, I’d rather be a sheep than a goat. Matthew 25.

I can see as always we're going nowhere with this, so before I say something I'll regret, I'm going to bounce on out of this pointless conversation. I can assure you that you are the ONLY one on this site (with perhaps exception to one of the other brothers) who thinks I am irrational. That statement couldn't be farther from the truth.

Regarding the sheep comments that I make to you and the rest of the brothers-in-christ: I know YOU don't think its an insult and that's what makes it so much fun. Call anyone else a sheep on this planet, and it's highly offensive and yet YOU are a self-proclaimed sheep. Do you understand? You openly admit that your god considers you a mindless drone. Someone who has to be told what to do. A stupid animal that cannot think for itself. You are a sheep. All of you christians are self-proclaimed sheep and that is why I LOVE calling you that.

So please do enjoy your title, as the rest of us find it very fitting.

(September 20, 2011 at 3:48 pm)Cinjin Wrote: I can see as always we're going nowhere with this, so before I say something I'll regret, I'm going to bounce on out of this pointless conversation. I can assure you that you are the ONLY one on this site (with perhaps exception to one of the other brothers) who thinks I am irrational. That statement couldn't be farther from the truth.

Your rationality or irrationality is not determined by what everyone else on here thinks about you, it is defined by your actions. You act irrationally as I have demonstrated several times, so by definition you are an irrational person.

Quote: Regarding the sheep comments that I make to you and the rest of the brothers-in-christ: I know YOU don't think its an insult and that's what makes it so much fun. Call anyone else a sheep on this planet, and it's highly offensive and yet YOU are a self-proclaimed sheep. Do you understand? You openly admit that your god considers you a mindless drone. Someone who has to be told what to do. A stupid animal that cannot think for itself. You are a sheep. All of you christians are self-proclaimed sheep and that is why I LOVE calling you that.

You do realize that Christians are called sheep in the Bible not because they are mindless drones but because they are redeemed followers of Christ right? You’re not even good at throwing out insults, that’s even sadder than the fact you are irrational. The irrational goat calling the rational sheep a sheep, now that’s funny.