(October 8, 2018 at 6:48 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Good, investigation is always good.

However the Saudis may claim the consulate is their territory and refuse any investigation by turkish police. Erdogan also is in the process of transforming Turkey into an autocracy. I dont know (yet) if and how far this has influenced the turkish police. How much of this story is true or how much is part of a political struggle between Turkey and the Emirates, we will see.

After all, just a few months ago Erdogan called the german government nazis, but now is begging for money to save him form the results of the devastating effects of his economic policy.

Indeed it is good to make sure.

But I think the matter exceeds Erdogan and his personal ambitions to being a matter of "Turkish sovereignty" and "Saudi outrageous and scary" abusing of international law.

If the investigation did confirm the killing of Jamal; then this is a disaster for the Saudi regime, and a proof to the horrors its citizens -and even foreigners in it- are living every day. This way we know that the world failed to contain this family of psychopaths, Jamal had the American passport, if this didn't protect him then it means the Sauds crossed it all.

It's a global problem.

I hope Jamal wasn't killed and hacked; but that is just a very far assumption. They -the Sauds- are killer and vicious criminals.

Turkish authorities are hunting a black van they believe carried the dead body of Jamal:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/o...udi-arabia

Quote:Turkish authorities are examining motorway cameras in the search for a black van they believe carried the body of Jamal Khashoggi from the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last week – one of six cars investigators say belonged to a Saudi hit squad thought to be behind the suspected murder of the dissident journalist.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45785719

Quote:Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has challenged Saudi Arabia to provide proof that a missing journalist has left its consulate in Istanbul.

Saudi national Jamal Khashoggi was last seen visiting the building last week. US President Donald Trump expressed concern about his fate on Monday.

It seems that the Turkish authorities are going to search the Saudi consulate with "co-operation" from the Saudis. Should be easy enough. I'm sue there's lot's of cctv cameras around the building.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45796417

(October 9, 2018 at 8:58 am)Marozz Wrote: It seems that the Turkish authorities are going to search the Saudi consulate with "co-operation" from the Saudis. Should be easy enough. I'm sue there's lot's of cctv cameras around the building.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45796417

The Turkish CCTVs outside the embassy didn't catch him on any recording of him getting out, the same BBC source says:

Quote:Saudi Arabia denies the suggestion.
It says the journalist left the consulate shortly after arriving, while Turkey says he was not seen leaving the building.
The country has demanded Saudi Arabia prove he left - despite not giving evidence of the claim he was killed inside.

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Turkey reportedly says it is scouring road cameras for a black van believed to have carried Mr Khashoggi's body from the consulate, while the Washington Post released CCTV footage of the journalist entering the building on Monday.

There is no CCTV footage for him leaving; only for him entering.

I'm inclined to believe the Turkish side of the story. The man was probably killed and dismembered.

The part where the consulates´cameras were broken on exactly the day he disappeared, now thats fishy i have to say.

(October 9, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: The part where the consulates´cameras were broken on exactly the day he disappeared, now thats fishy i have to say.

We seem to have the same problem with a lot of police body-cams in the U.S.

Strange coincidences are strange!

(October 9, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: The part where the consulates´cameras were broken on exactly the day he disappeared, now thats fishy i have to say.

Similar problem in Russia whenever a Putin critic is taken out.

Ok, who is on board with me founding a new company which makes reliable cameras? I think there is a considerable market.

(October 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Ok, who is on board with me founding a new company which makes reliable cameras? I think there is a considerable market.

Not among governments.