what about deformed kids ? is the designer bad at his job or is he working in "mysterious ways" ?

(October 19, 2018 at 6:27 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 5:01 am)CDF47 Wrote: I provided proof in that contained within the DNA molecule is extremely highly complex information which is functional.

That is a lie.

(October 19, 2018 at 5:01 am)CDF47 Wrote: That proves a Creator or creators.

A second lie.

(October 19, 2018 at 5:01 am)CDF47 Wrote: From there it is time to turn to theology where I believe in the Christian God of the Bible.  The Bible has a sound creation story (Old Earth Creationism (OEC) and day-age interpretation)

Third lie.

(October 19, 2018 at 5:01 am)CDF47 Wrote: and prophecy fulfilled.

And a fourth.

You have presented all of this crap before. The answers you were provided with before have not gone away.

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(October 19, 2018 at 5:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: After seeing what I call proof of creation in DNA containing highly complex information that is functional I do not see how atheism is tenable anymore.

Proof that complexity in DNA must increase naturally.

The information contained in DNA is not only extremely complex, it is also functional in that it encodes for proteins.  This cannot be explained away in some 6 page evolutionary paper.

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(October 19, 2018 at 6:58 am)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: what about deformed kids ? is the designer bad at his job or is he working in "mysterious ways" ?

He is working in mysterious ways.  Maybe He wants to see and show how others treat those kids and judge them accordingly.  And, yes, the Lord can step back and see how we behave as He stepped back and allowed Adam to name the animals.  Some of it can be from sins of their fathers (incest,...).  There are numerous reasons why this can be and it is only temporary.  The Lord knows the eternal.

At work.

Hello CDF47.

So, if your diety works I such mysterious way that you cannot truly understand it or its motivations in regards to certain aspects of reality.......

Why does it deserve anything?

Cheers!

(October 19, 2018 at 7:26 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 6:27 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is a lie.

A second lie.

Third lie.

And a fourth.

You have presented all of this crap before. The answers you were provided with before have not gone away.

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Proof that complexity in DNA must increase naturally.

The information contained in DNA is not only extremely complex, it is also functional in that it encodes for proteins.  This cannot be explained away in some 6 page evolutionary paper.

And you are still wrong.

https://www.nature.com/articles/376578a0
https://www.researchgate.net/publication..._RNA_world
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC148579/
http://www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6416
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9419221

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(October 19, 2018 at 7:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: He is working in mysterious ways.  Maybe He wants to see and show how others treat those kids and judge them accordingly.  And, yes, the Lord can step back and see how we behave as He stepped back and allowed Adam to name the animals.  Some of it can be from sins of their fathers (incest,...).  There are numerous reasons why this can be and it is only temporary.  The Lord knows the eternal.

Your bible god has no problem with incest.

The problem with a creator is, that some thing in the natural world as SO complex, (like DNA) to have designed it just boggles the mind. It suggest a being/god over a work bench with soldering iron and a welders mask until something works. You would think if a god existed and spoke "Let there be life" and man appeared, we'd be incredibly simple creatures, as no thought or actually physical "making" has been done.

The theory of evolution is scientifically sound, and directly does explain why things in life forms are so complex, because they have been slowly changing over billions of years.

(October 19, 2018 at 7:41 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Hello CDF47.  

So, if your diety works I  such mysterious way that you cannot truly understand it or its motivations in regards to certain aspects of reality.......

Why does it deserve anything?

Cheers!

I do understand it.  Some of it has to do with sins of their fathers.  I provided another example as well in the post above.  

Cheers to you as well sir!

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(October 19, 2018 at 7:42 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(October 19, 2018 at 7:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: The information contained in DNA is not only extremely complex, it is also functional in that it encodes for proteins.  This cannot be explained away in some 6 page evolutionary paper.

And you are still wrong.

https://www.nature.com/articles/376578a0
https://www.researchgate.net/publication..._RNA_world
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC148579/
http://www.pnas.org/content/100/11/6416
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9419221

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(October 19, 2018 at 7:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: He is working in mysterious ways.  Maybe He wants to see and show how others treat those kids and judge them accordingly.  And, yes, the Lord can step back and see how we behave as He stepped back and allowed Adam to name the animals.  Some of it can be from sins of their fathers (incest,...).  There are numerous reasons why this can be and it is only temporary.  The Lord knows the eternal.

Your bible god has no problem with incest.

Incest is a forbidden act.  It had to be performed by early humans to populate the Earth.  Other cases of it were sinful.

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(October 19, 2018 at 7:54 am)OakTree500 Wrote: The problem with a creator is, that some thing in the natural world as SO complex, (like DNA) to have designed it just boggles the mind. It suggest a being/god over a work bench with soldering iron and a welders mask until something works. You would think if a god existed and spoke "Let there be life" and man appeared, we'd be incredibly simple creatures, as no thought or actually physical "making" has been done.

The theory of evolution is scientifically sound, and directly does explain why things in life forms are so complex, because they have been slowly changing over billions of years.

Again, the information is not just Extremely complex, it is also functional as it encodes for proteins.  See the short video in my signature for further explanation.

Quote:Incest is a forbidden act.  It had to be performed by early humans to populate the Earth.  Other cases of it were sinful.

"It's Forbidden, but it had to be done that one time, so it's ok. Other than that, it's bad. " What? That makes no sense at all.

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Quote:Again, the information is not just Extremely complex, it is also functional as it encodes for proteins.  See the short video in my signature for further explanation.

You see this link for an example of how something "extremely complex" came about by natural causes.

Evolution of the eye

(October 19, 2018 at 5:30 am)CDF47 Wrote: Glory be to God!

(October 18, 2018 at 7:11 pm)Dragonfly Wrote:

(May 4, 2018 at 2:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes.  Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G.  In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters.  In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA.  This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe.

There's also a lot of junk information in DNA that serves no purpose, and that indicates a lack of intelligent design. There is a lot of information in the DNA, but that doesn't mean it was put there by a designer.

Hey! Thanks to that "junk DNA" I have the best flippers in the school.

(October 19, 2018 at 8:18 am)OakTree500 Wrote:

Quote:Incest is a forbidden act.  It had to be performed by early humans to populate the Earth.  Other cases of it were sinful.

"It's Forbidden, but it had to be done that one time, so it's ok. Other than that, it's bad. " What? That makes no sense at all.

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Quote:Again, the information is not just Extremely complex, it is also functional as it encodes for proteins.  See the short video in my signature for further explanation.

You see this link for an example of how something "extremely complex" came about by natural causes.

Evolution of the eye

It does make sense that in the beginning it was allowed to populate the Earth.  

The eye is clearly a designed subsystem.  However, it is DNA which is the proof of design as it is not does not just contain extremely complex information, the information is functional in that it encodes for proteins.