(November 3, 2018 at 11:48 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 11:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Don't you think that most people are attached to their own ideas?
Atheists too try to have the last word so where is the problem?  

Sure. I just thought that one of a yogi's goals was to be indifferent to such things.  

(4.19-4.23) The Poet, Sanjaya Wrote:With no desire for success,
no anxiety about failure,
indifferent to results, he burns up
his actions in the fire of wisdom.

Surrendering all thoughts of outcome,
unperturbed, self-reliant,
he does nothing at all, even
when fully engaged in actions.

There is nothing that he expects,
nothing that he fears. Serene,
free from possessions, untainted,
acting with the body alone,

content with whatever happens,
unattached to pleasure or pain,
success or failure, he acts
and is never bound by his action.

When a man has let go of attachments,
when his mind is rooted in wisdom,
everything he does is worship
and all his actions melt away.

All very very nice indeed VL.
Unfortunately we also live in the physical-material dimension that require a physical-material approach and solution as well.
Lord Shiva the master of yoga was very clear when he said this which by the way was also reiterate by my yoga master.
If we are not realistic then we as well as all humanity will cease to exist.

This answer yog post as well.  

This is someone reaching out and asking for help, maybe you could keep all your spiritual ideas in your other threads Rik?

Knowing that death is final and I will be as I was before I was born with no perception of the passage of time or any other thing is a huge comfort to me.

(November 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm)adey67 Wrote: Knowing that death is final and I will be as I was before I was born with no perception of the passage of time or any other thing is a huge comfort to me.

Absolutely. Any kind of eternal existence, besides one I had total control over, is a horrifying prospect to me.

(November 4, 2018 at 2:46 pm)robvalue Wrote:

(November 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm)adey67 Wrote: Knowing that death is final and I will be as I was before I was born with no perception of the passage of time or any other thing is a huge comfort to me.

Absolutely. Any kind of eternal existence, besides one I had total control over, is a horrifying prospect to me.

People in the east have different view on afterlife, they think it has many stages. In India religion talks about being boiled in oil for thousand of years for eating meat. That's as retarded as saying infinity, but just in a less retarded way. It's still sounds stupid. I mean, animals in many developed countries get killed instantly with special guns, but this, thousand of years (it may be many 100K if you count their way) is mad.

If I'm depressed or anxious I come here and yell at religious people. Just kidding. I try to see what is making me depressed or anxious and try to fix it at the source. I also go to the gym as Latin proverb goes "a healthy mind in a healthy body" and it's true, it helps to balance the chemistry in the body.
Of course, there is stuff that makes us depressed or anxious that is outside our body like politics but even then try to make an effort to do what ever you can.

(November 4, 2018 at 9:48 am)robvalue Wrote: This is someone reaching out and asking for help, maybe you could keep all your spiritual ideas in your other threads Rik?

That is a rude statement Rob.
All I did was to reply to VL.

Eventually you should have told VL to avoid asking me this type of questions.
Clearly is not your day.
Better go back to rest.

(November 3, 2018 at 11:30 am)Whateverist Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 12:08 am)Tres Leches Wrote: Any book that helps me escape everyday pressures and pain is a good book. My personal tastes might be different than yours but here are few I've read recently:
In the Darkroom by Susan Faludi
Sapiens by Yuval Noah Hariri
Any book by Junot Diaz

I've just put holds Sapiens and In the Darkroom.  I enjoyed the Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao; what else has he written that you liked?

This Is How You Lose Her and Drown are also both good; they are short story collections.

Side note - I bought a book at the Berkeley book festival when I saw you and Lia called Wanderlust, A History of Walking. I'm finally reading that one at the moment too!

-Teresa

(November 4, 2018 at 11:12 pm)Tres Leches Wrote:

(November 3, 2018 at 11:30 am)Whateverist Wrote: I've just put holds Sapiens and In the Darkroom.  I enjoyed the Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao; what else has he written that you liked?

This Is How You Lose Her and Drown are also both good; they are short story collections.

Side note - I bought a book at the Berkeley book festival when I saw you and Lia called Wanderlust, A History of Walking. I'm finally reading that one at the moment too!

-Teresa

Thanks.  I just finished reading a couple of great books by John Irving, The World According to Garp and before that The Cider House Rules.  I liked them both but maybe Cider House rules a little more.  I've decided two of my main orders of business are getting to the Y more days than not and reading all the great books I can before I croak.  

By the way, I've just decided to bring my niece and a friend of hers to see Wicked in December down in L.A.  Hopefully Lia can come too so I don't get played too badly.     The same play will be in Fresno for a week in March.  Have you ever seen it?  I think your daughter and you would really enjoy seeing it together.  I guess you know it is twist on the Wizard of Oz story.

(November 4, 2018 at 7:14 pm)Little Rik Wrote:

(November 4, 2018 at 9:48 am)robvalue Wrote: This is someone reaching out and asking for help, maybe you could keep all your spiritual ideas in your other threads Rik?

That is a rude statement Rob.
All I did was to reply to VL.

Eventually you should have told VL to avoid asking me this type of questions.
Clearly is not your day.
Better go back to rest.

That's not a rude statement.

"Go fuck yourself, you self righteous piece of shit!" Is a rude statement.