(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 1:24 am)pocaracas Wrote: And what does that mean?
How did you come upon this nugget of information?

Through reasoning and logic.

Can I disbelieve the validity of your logic and reasoning, and ask for you to expose it here for us to analyse it?

(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 1:24 am)pocaracas Wrote: And what does that mean?
How did you come upon this nugget of information?

Through reasoning and logic.

OK then. You made it up out of whole cloth.

(November 6, 2018 at 4:14 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Through reasoning and logic.

Can I disbelieve the validity of your logic and reasoning, and ask for you to expose it here for us to analyse it?

You could, I suppose, but the best that you can hope for is 500 more pages of unsupported assertions.  He's so woefully off the mark that it isn't even worth my time to go dig up an Inigo Montoya GIF to post in response.

Everyone still having a good time being astounded that someone else can be so very different from themselves? That's nice. Carry on.

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(November 6, 2018 at 4:14 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Through reasoning and logic.

Can I disbelieve the validity of your logic and reasoning, and ask for you to expose it here for us to analyse it?

Yes CDF, expose the justifications for your most cherished beliefs here where those you trust the most can give you honest feedback and support.  I'll wait.

(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Through reasoning and logic.

You keep saying those words... and you don't even know what they mean

Most boring troll ever to rack up this many pages goes to CDF.

(November 5, 2018 at 9:08 pm)no one Wrote: Calling CDF a clown is not nice, at least clowns are amusing.

It depends

Reasoning & logic doesn't tell you how long a board is or how much it weighs or how strong it is.

We need to measure it, weigh it and test it's strength.
A board is a real object in this world that we often use in construction.

You cannot logic something into existence.
You cannot reason it's attributes.
They have to be measured.

I have a certain level of intelligence.
It's not that high, nor that low. I'm average.
This can be measured & tested.

I have a certain level of creative aptitude.
This can be shown through my writing, drawing, my witty repartee, and my ability to craft various kinds of crafty shit.

You assert your god has certain attributes.
How did you measure them ?

(November 6, 2018 at 4:14 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Through reasoning and logic.

Can I disbelieve the validity of your logic and reasoning, and ask for you to expose it here for us to analyse it?

It's been laid out throughout this thread.

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(November 7, 2018 at 12:21 am)Rahn127 Wrote: Reasoning & logic doesn't tell you how long a board is or how much it weighs or how strong it is.

We need to measure it, weigh it and test it's strength.
A board is a real object in this world that we often use in construction.

You cannot logic something into existence.
You cannot reason it's attributes.
They have to be measured.

I have a certain level of intelligence.
It's not that high, nor that low. I'm average.
This can be measured & tested.

I have a certain level of creative aptitude.
This can be shown through my writing, drawing, my witty repartee, and my ability to craft various kinds of crafty shit.

You assert your god has certain attributes.
How did you measure them ?

The Lord is immeasurable.  He transcends this realm.

There are many logical systems. 
One can be perfectly consistent and true to the principles of each of them, yet many do not obtain in reality. 
Logic is necessary but hardly sufficient. One cannot reason one's way to the truth about reality.
Did Logic find Relativity ? Did Logic find Uncertainty, Chaos Theory, .... antibiotics ? Nope.

One needs evidence. 
There is no evidence for any of the gods. 

For thousands and thousands of years, humans have stomped their impotent little feet, demanding they be listed to, claiming their 
gods are the 'true' gods, and yet eventually each, one by one, is tossed on the scrap heap of history. 
There is nothing special about the current set of gods. 

Does anyone seriously, actually think that 10,000 years from now, having moved on to other planets and celestial locations, .... humans will still look back at a wandering preacher from a small strip on land on the east end of the Mediterranean, and embrace the Bronze Age nonsense invented about him ?