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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 5:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2018 at 5:10 pm by Bucky Ball.)
Actually you are ignoring the argument. You can't say what *can* evolve over time ... your paradigm lacks substance. You have established NO FACTUAL BASIS or range for your statements. In order to say what you do, you NEED a complete picture. You have ALWAYS FAILED to be able to support your argument with facts and details. It's nothing but an argument from ignorant incredulity, (fallacy).
In order to say what you do, you MUST say what CAN evolve over time, and how complex that can or can't be. You are unable to do this. Where are the boundaries, what are the exceptions ? Exactly. Without this information, your assertions are worthless rubbish.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 6:09 pm
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(November 7, 2018 at 1:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not the only one that thinks it is. There are many scientists and engineers that believe in creation. Especially when they learn how DNA actually functions.
Argh!
And this post, right here, is why interacting with some people is so frustrating.
It's not a matter of who believes what. Or how many.
It's not a matter of 'Belief' period.
Please stop conflating the word 'Information' and the word 'Belief'.
The things in sciences are not 'Beliefs', okay?
I've posted question in regards to DNA as have others. Could you please give us some posts as to at what level your understanding about the molecule that is Dna works/performs etc?
So far all we're doing is watching you, CFDF47, spin your mental wheels and go no where with your posts. Just endless repeats of 'Nuh-uh! Godidit!"
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 6:30 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2018 at 6:31 pm by Whateverist.)
(November 7, 2018 at 1:39 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 7, 2018 at 1:35 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Almost 600 pages, and where are we at? The same damn place we were at on page 1.:
“DNA is designed because CDF thinks it is.”
I am not the only one that thinks it is. There are many scientists and engineers that believe in creation. Especially when they learn how DNA actually functions.
Yes and all of those go to universities where they study how to defend that belief, an odd approach to science.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:18 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:40 pm
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Quote:History's most famous scientists believed in a Creator as do many scientists around the world today.
Which is irrelevant to wither said belief is scientific or not
Quote:It is a theory, I agree, but it is pretty strongly supported.
No it's not and not it isn't
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:42 pm
(November 7, 2018 at 8:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 7, 2018 at 6:30 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Yes and all of those go to universities where they study how to defend that belief, an odd approach to science.
Defending the belief is easy. It doesn't take much university to do that.
Agreed but do you at least acknowledge that these intelligent design degree mills are in the business of defending a preordained position, and not to neutrally search for the truth? That would be honest.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:42 pm
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Quote:Defending the belief is easy. It doesn't take much university to do that.
Clearly it's not because you have failed miserably and yes it takes no university to spew nonsense .
(November 7, 2018 at 8:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 7, 2018 at 8:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Defending the belief is easy. It doesn't take much university to do that.
Agreed but do you at least acknowledge that these intelligent design degree mills are in the business of defending a preordained position, and not to neutrally search for the truth? That would be honest. He won't because that would destroy his whole game
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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(November 7, 2018 at 8:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 7, 2018 at 8:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Defending the belief is easy. It doesn't take much university to do that.
Agreed but do you at least acknowledge that these intelligent design degree mills are in the business of defending a preordained position, and not to neutrally search for the truth? That would be honest.
Some could be.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 8:56 pm
CDF, if this grand designer of yours is so grand, why didn't it design your elevator to go to the top?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 7, 2018 at 9:11 pm
(November 7, 2018 at 8:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (November 7, 2018 at 8:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Agreed but do you at least acknowledge that these intelligent design degree mills are in the business of defending a preordained position, and not to neutrally search for the truth? That would be honest.
Some could be.
How do you feel about that? Do you justify it as being in the service of a higher good? I personally would have some regret about that.
Have you considered keeping God but upgrading your theology? I know people who work in real science, are ardent believers and have no problem with evolution. I think asking kids to deny evolution is just a step or two removed from becoming the next technology avoiding quaker-esque commune. You shouldn't have to choose between embracing the modern world and being a Christian. I'm not asking you to do it for me; it doesn't affect me one way or the other. Just seems like a more comfortable option to me.
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