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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 3:51 am
(November 11, 2018 at 3:48 am)Everena Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 3:43 am)purplepurpose Wrote: How God "just happened naturally dude" and our consciousness can't?
It is Biology that is claiming it all must have just happened naturally, by some form of mysterious atheist magic I guess. Theists are fully aware that higher intelligence was necessary for this to all come to be as it has.
How Higher intell. created itself?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 3:52 am
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(November 11, 2018 at 3:45 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
Hello Everena!
Might I enquire to yourself about some things?
Could you, perhaps, share with me an overview of the scope and abilities about which you think your proposed 'Over mind' possess?
Cheers!
The ability to create this entire universe along with our flesh. A perfect guide and mentor to us on the other side. I see God as a massive form of energy that always has been and always will, just like our higher selves.
(November 11, 2018 at 3:51 am)purplepurpose Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 3:48 am)Everena Wrote: It is Biology that is claiming it all must have just happened naturally, by some form of mysterious atheist magic I guess. Theists are fully aware that higher intelligence was necessary for this to all come to be as it has.
How Higher intell. created itself? God always has been and always will be.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 3:53 am
I see there still has been no evidence provided for this god's existence. Forgive me as I remain skeptical of claims that resemble fairy tales.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 3:54 am
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@Ev
Do you know why it wouldn't actually matter if there -were- a meat fairy...as you believe there is?
Because even if there is, there's nothing about our world our ourselves that required meat fairy's input.
Do you know why your beliefs can be observed to be illogical? Because you're not actually convinced by your own objections. Things only need creators until you decide they don't. You have, ofc..decided that they don't.... the very minute someone leveraged your own objection against your own meat fairy.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 3:58 am
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(November 11, 2018 at 3:52 am)Everena Wrote:
(November 11, 2018 at 3:51 am)purplepurpose Wrote: How Higher intell. created itself? God always has been and always will be.
How do you know that?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 4:01 am
(November 11, 2018 at 3:45 am)Khemikal Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 3:37 am)Everena Wrote: I not only asserted it, I can prove that science has no idea why we are conscious. There are only hypotheses about it, nothing more. Why don't you look it up instead of pretending you know something that you don't. Reassertion. Still as wrong as the first time you asserted it.
Quote:Also, there is no other logical explanation of how everything came to be. "It all just happened naturally dude" is not a logical explanation and it means nothing.
I just gave you two other logical explanations for how the universe and our planet came to be (they even have the benefit of massive evidence supporting them, as opposed to a magic book and you having the good feels). Your assertion that a fairy is the only logical explanation for either is not only false, it's absurdly and pointlessly false on it's face.
Quote:My beliefs are built on the ability to apply logic and conclude what is fairly obvious, combined with numerous shared/mutual experiences and signs that have proven God to me beyond any and all doubt.
That doesn't seem to be the case so far. So I guess...here, we have another assertion which is immediately recognizable as being untrue.
You're 0/4.......gj? Nope,
No, you are 0/4 ---Wrong about consciousness. Please read this so you stop pretending something that is NOT true
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consc...roscience/
The other two explanations you offered are not logical without higher intelligence being involved. It is a necessity. As I said in my edit (not sure why both posted-oops) I believe in the Big Bang, who doesn't? But it requires higher intelligence whether you like it or not.
And I know God exists beyond any doubt. I have even lost my fear of death completely. Some day you will too.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 4:03 am
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At work.
Thank'e for your reply.
So, your 'Overmind' existed before the 'Big expansion'. *Nods*
It created/caused everything into being 'Some how' (Your further thoughts and insights into such I much look forward too at your convenience) which , please correct me if I am wrong, puts your 'Overmind' about 13 odd billion years away and in the past from us. Right?
So..... um..... how did your 'Overmind' get from there/thence to here/now?
EDIT: I mean.... if your 'Overmind' is before and 'Outside' our reality..... how does it interact back into the reality you assert it created?
Is your 'Overmind' able to ignore things such as 'Light speed'? (Again, your thoughts and ideas explaining such 8 much look forward too at your convenience)
Cheers.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 4:10 am
(November 11, 2018 at 4:03 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
Thank'e for your reply.
So, your 'Overmind' existed before the 'Big expansion'. *Nods*
It created/caused everything into being 'Some how' (Your further thoughts and insights into such I much look forward too at your convenience) which , please correct me if I am wrong, puts your 'Overmind' about 13 odd billion years away and in the past from us. Right?
So..... um..... how did your 'Overmind' get from there/thence to here/now?
Is your 'Overmind' able to ignore things such as 'Light speed'? (Again, your thoughts and ideas explaining such 8 much look forward too at your convenience)
Cheers.
If you are talking about God, just say God. I have no idea what Overmind even means. And that's right God always has been and always will be and God created an entire universe, something that humans are not capable of doing or replicating or even fully understanding yet, but you actually think humans are the highest form of intelligence in 200 billion galaxies?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 4:16 am
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Why there certainly has to be a Creator for our universe?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 4:18 am
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(November 11, 2018 at 4:01 am)Everena Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 3:45 am)Khemikal Wrote: Reassertion. Still as wrong as the first time you asserted it.
I just gave you two other logical explanations for how the universe and our planet came to be (they even have the benefit of massive evidence supporting them, as opposed to a magic book and you having the good feels). Your assertion that a fairy is the only logical explanation for either is not only false, it's absurdly and pointlessly false on it's face.
That doesn't seem to be the case so far. So I guess...here, we have another assertion which is immediately recognizable as being untrue.
You're 0/4.......gj? Nope,
No, you are 0/4 ---Wrong about consciousness. Please read this so you stop pretending something that is NOT true Hahahaha, well, that was quick.
"Nuh uh, no I'm not, you are!"
Quote:The other two explanations you offered are not logical without higher intelligence being involved. It is a necessity. As I said in my edit (not sure why both posted-oops) I believe in the Big Bang, who doesn't? But it requires higher intelligence whether you like it or not.
Now you're just being silly. You made a claim, it was false. Is there not something about strong moral character in the believing set...you know, the kind of thing where a person takes a deep breath and says;
"I mispoke, you're right, there are tons of logical explanations for how the universe and the planet came to be the way they are that have nothing to do with gods, and tons more that..if my godsplanation is logical, are about other gods whose godsplanations would then also be logical......but I -believe- that the god explanation is the best explanation, and that my god is the real meat fairy."
Rhetorical, I can already tell that you're a dense asshole, lol.
Quote:And I know God exists beyond any doubt. I have even lost my fear of death completely. Some day you will too.
If you know it, you can show it. If you can't..you just believe it.
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