(November 18, 2018 at 3:50 pm)TwoKnives99 Wrote: Good Lord, Everenna, you referencing yourself in the third person is the least weird thing I've seen on this thread. 

Even after skimming through the 789(?!) pages on this thread, I'm still no closer to understanding what you believe. 

Please begin by articulating what your beliefs are, I would like that to include your personal definition of God if you'd so kindly share that with us. 

And then, explain why DNA proves the existence of God, as per your definition. (I'm assuming you came here to provide evidence of God or other Supreme Being™ by use of DNA)

And let the conversation flow from there

I was not referencing myself in the third person and I don't know why you think I was.
I envision God as a massive form of energy, bigger than this planet, but people perceive God in the way that makes the most sense to them.
I believe in soulmates and that the most important part of our purpose here is to find our other half and treat them with kindness, love and respect
I believe in karma and reincarnation and to explain: I think we all suffer through the pain we have intentionally caused to others in a series of lives designed to better us, with the ultimate goal being to never intentionally hurt anyone in any given circumstance, especially our soulmate who we have the ability to hurt the very most. Once we can acheive that, we are then deserving of and have earned eternal paradise.
The concept of Karma exists in every religion, with the actual term itself coming from Hinduism and Buddhism
However the concept of karma or perfect justice is mentioned in the Bible over and over again
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
And the concept of karma is also in the Quran:
https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html

Additionally it is the only concept that would make this a fair and just universe.

God is the ONLY logical assumption anyone can make. and this is why I think so

This entire universe and everything in it is evidence of higher intelligence.

The complex code of DNA could not have possibly created itself from nothingness and scientists working in genetics are disovering new things all the time, like the second language code they discovered written on top of the other language code in our DNA in 2013 https://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/...etic-code/

It is mathematically impossible for even one protein to just form by chance without intelligence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA

It is statistically impossible for all the functions of the human body to have evolved without intelligence. https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367

Science only attempts to discover and understand how an already existing and operating universe works.

And food is evidence of God. Why do we have food on this planet for every fish, bird, insect, ... food for the approx 7.8 million different species of conscious life? Something like food being here, and being delicious and providing energy and nutrients cannot just be written off to chance or luck and nor can medicinal plants and herbs that we derive our synthetic medicines from.

Additionally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live? Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?

What about consciousness and intelligence? How could something conscious and intelligent ever possibly emerge from something that was not conscious or intelligent?

Also, we have discovered approx 200 billion different galaxies. Do you really think humans are the highest form of intelligence in 200 billion galaxies?

Add all that to a planet with an enormous amount of useful materials and resources, the sun, the moon, water, the placement of the planet.. and it becomes very evident that higher intelligence exists.

wow Well I think I speak for everyone when I say, I’m convinced. Good job everena, your work here is done.

Whack-a-do-do-do
What a waste a mind can be.
Whack-a-do-do-do
When you're completely crazy.

(November 18, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: wow Well I think I speak for everyone when I say, I’m convinced. Good job everena, your work here is done.

She convinced me too. Convinced me to put her on ignore. When arguing with stupid people on the internet, they tend to drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Not gonna let her win that way!

(November 18, 2018 at 4:19 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: wow Well I think I speak for everyone when I say, I’m convinced. Good job everena, your work here is done.

I'm glad to hear you say that. Although I always believed in God, I was not completely convinced until I had an enormous amount of experiences and signs that proved it to me beyond any and all doubt.

(November 18, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Evolution could very well have been Gods way of creating our flesh. And there are 330 million known differences between chimp DNA and our DNA. It only sounds small as a percentage. Also our souls are human and that is the important thing to remember.

You don't have a soul. None of us do. Soul's a religious superstition. 

Quote:I do not have a religion. I believe in God and have my own beliefs based on what I think would make this a fair and just universe and what I think our purpose here is. My beliefs are eclectic.

You are a religion of one. Your beliefs are no less nonsensical.

Everenna, 

Quote:it is mathematically impossible for even one protein to just form by chance without intelligence

I hear alarm bells. 

Proteins are formed from genes, the process of making a protein is also called gene expression.


Structures in the cell identify the start and end of a gene and read the DNA sequence between them (the order of A, C, G and T bases within the gene). A molecular message (an mRNA molecule) is produced that echoes the sequence of the gene itself. In most respects, mRNA looks similar to a single-stranded piece of DNA.

A ribosome receives the mRNA molecule and starts to build a chain of amino acids (a protein) that exactly matches the instructions within the mRNA. The ribosome ‘reads’ the mRNA sequence as a series of three-base chunks or codons. Each codon tells the protein-making machinery which amino acid to add next.

Above are the two stages of protein synthesis transcription and translation, for reference in future. 

You're assuming that protein synthesis is a random process, in truth, it is governed by the non-random forces of chemistry. 

Ah.. All-powerful Chemistry

(November 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Everena Wrote: I envision God as a massive form of energy, bigger than this planet, but people perceive God in the way that makes the most sense to them.

Funny how we can't spot a ball of pure energy bigger than the Earth.

Quote:I believe in soulmates and that the most important part of our purpose here is to find our other half and treat them with kindness, love and respect

What a horrible and bleak existence that must be, knowing that there is only one perfect individual for you in all reality and your chances of ever meeting them in this enormous world are one in a few million at best.

Quote:Additionally it is the only concept that would make this a fair and just universe.

Justice is a human concept. Expecting the universe to be just is like expecting a falling rock to be merciful.

Quote:God is the ONLY logical assumption anyone can make. and this is why I think so

God isn't a logical assumption at all. It's incoherent and self-contradictory as you have so aptly demonstrated. The irony is that most atheists could imagine a more meaningful god than your ill-conceived grab-bag of superstition.

(November 18, 2018 at 4:51 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 18, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Evolution could very well have been Gods way of creating our flesh. And there are 330 million known differences between chimp DNA and our DNA. It only sounds small as a percentage. Also our souls are human and that is the important thing to remember.

You don't have a soul. None of us do. Soul's a religious superstition. 
Everena: Get real. I am not a robot and neither are you. Wake up.

Quote:I do not have a religion. I believe in God and have my own beliefs based on what I think would make this a fair and just universe and what I think our purpose here is. My beliefs are eclectic.

You are a religion of one. Your beliefs are no less nonsensical.

No, I am a religion of 93% of the world. We all believe similiar things.

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(November 18, 2018 at 5:00 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Everena Wrote: I envision God as a massive form of energy, bigger than this planet, but people perceive God in the way that makes the most sense to them.

Funny how we can't spot a ball of pure energy bigger than the Earth.
Everena: We just cannot see God with our human eyes. God exists with us in another universe.

Quote:I believe in soulmates and that the most important part of our purpose here is to find our other half and treat them with kindness, love and respect

What a horrible and bleak existence that must be, knowing that there is only one perfect individual for you in all reality and your chances of ever meeting them in this enormous world are one in a few million at best.

Everena: It's wonderful to know that I will share all of eternity with my true love and perfect mate. Our lives here are set-ups, and we will always meet our other half, feel that magnetic connection, and strong attraction and what we decide to do from there is up to us.

Quote:Additionally it is the only concept that would make this a fair and just universe.

Justice is a human concept. Expecting the universe to be just is like expecting a falling rock to be merciful.

Everena: And we have that concept because it matters to us that all things in our world be fair and just. It matters to us on the other side as well.

Quote:God is the ONLY logical assumption anyone can make. and this is why I think so

God isn't a logical assumption at all. It's incoherent and self-contradictory as you have so aptly demonstrated. The irony is that most atheists could imagine a more meaningful god than your ill-conceived grab-bag of superstition.

God is concious higher intelligence and not based on any superstition, but rather based on logic and observation of our environment.

Those little differences will get you killed in many parts of the world.

God-buggerers are such shits, you know.