(November 19, 2018 at 1:20 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 19, 2018 at 12:45 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Shit, even I know better than that! Eye for an eye is vengeance, not karma! That's the opposite of karma. You're going to reincarnate as intestinal flora thinking that way!
If your mythology isn't even coherent why would I give your opinions on science a single thought?

No, it is exactly the same concept as karma. And I provided links to both Christian and Muslim websites already that call it karma themselves, and that prove you wrong. Here they are again.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
This one lists 100 verses from the Bible about Karma
https://www.openbible.info/topics/karma
There are also several other Muslim websites aside from the one I linked you earlier.

And Ghandi was a Hindu who believed in Karma and you missed his point entirely.

If you can't tell the difference between karma and vengeance then your gibberish is so bad that it isn't even wrong.

I'm glad that you've gotten clear of organized religion. Good luck on getting rid of disorganized religion and all the mumbo-jumbo that comes with it.

I feel compelled to tell you that, as an Indian, you equating karma with vengeance is.. just fractally wrong..

Karma is an Indian religious concept which means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect). Good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and future suffering.

Vengeance is punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong.

The meaning of Exodus 21:23-25 is that person who has injured another person is to be penalized to a similar degree, and the person inflicting such punishment should be the injured party. This is vengeance.

(November 19, 2018 at 7:12 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 19, 2018 at 1:20 am)Everena Wrote: No, it is exactly the same concept as karma. And I provided links to both Christian and Muslim websites already that call it karma themselves, and that prove you wrong. Here they are again.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
This one lists 100 verses from the Bible about Karma
https://www.openbible.info/topics/karma
There are also several other Muslim websites aside from the one I linked you earlier.

And Ghandi was a Hindu who believed in Karma and you missed his point entirely.

If you can't tell the difference between karma and vengeance then your gibberish is so bad that it isn't even wrong.

I'm glad that you've gotten clear of organized religion. Good luck on getting rid of disorganized religion and all the mumbo-jumbo that comes with it.

The links are right there. Pretend whatever makes you happy and keeps you in your delusional atheist bubble though.
 Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, Everyone will be salted with fire, Live by the sword, die by the sword, you reap what you sow, Consider what you hear, for with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you and even more (All examples of the concept of the Karma in the Bible and you have 2 links to Christian websites showing you numerous examples of karma in the Bible and here are examples from a Muslim website of Karma in Quran https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html. Like it or not. Like it or not. Like it or not. And we all know exactly what it means.

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(November 19, 2018 at 7:37 pm)TwoKnives99 Wrote: I feel compelled to tell you that, as an Indian, you equating karma with vengeance is.. just fractally wrong..

Karma is an Indian religious concept which means action, work or deed; it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect). Good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and future suffering.

Vengeance is punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong.

The meaning of Exodus 21:23-25 is that person who has injured another person is to be penalized to a similar degree, and the person inflicting such punishment should be the injured party. This is vengeance.

Correct and it is in the Bible and in the Quran and there are links right there with explanations for you if is really that difficult for you to understand reward/redemption.
https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-...out-karma/
https://www.openbible.info/topics/karma

Quote:Pretend whatever makes you happy and keeps you in your delusional atheist bubble though.

Is that like what keeps Roger Penrose in his atheist bubble ? That bubble ?

Everenna,

Exodus 21:23-25 is referring to lex talionis, the law of retaliation, whereby a punishment resembles the offence committed in kind and degree.

That is not karma.

Karma would be 'if you cut out someone's left eye, you shall eventually lose your left eye in this life or the next'

Vengeance is 'he took your eye, you may take his, for it is proportionate retribution'

Vengeance and karma are not the same.

(November 19, 2018 at 6:48 pm)Everena Wrote: The naysayers claimed the brain was too wet, warm and noisy for quantum processes. But they were wrong. And you are wrong. It is now proven science and NO ONE considers it WOO anymore.

   


Of course, in your mind there can actually be another person, besides you, on this planet stupid enough to think quantum processes needs noise canceling, dehumidifying refrigeration to occur...

Your will forever be a source of morbid fascination.

You are truly a waste of bacterial excrement and devoid of any redeeming qualities.

Quote:The naysayers claimed the brain was too wet, warm and noisy for quantum processes. But they were wrong. And you are wrong. It is now proven science and NO ONE considers it WOO anymore.

Quite a few experts consider it woo ... and in fact it's an actively discussed interpretation, and not accepted by Neuro-scientists. 
Both of them are "dabbling" in a field they are not trained in. 
Nothing has been proven, as even a 30 second search would reveal. 
Another example of Woo Princess MIS-characterizing an article she can't even really understand.

(November 19, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 19, 2018 at 6:48 pm)Everena Wrote: The naysayers claimed the brain was too wet, warm and noisy for quantum processes. But they were wrong. And you are wrong. It is now proven science and NO ONE considers it WOO anymore.

   


Of course, in your mind there can actually be another person, besides you, on this planet stupid enough to think quantum processes needs noise canceling, dehumidifying refrigeration to occur...

Your will forever be a source of morbid fascination.

You are truly a waste of bacterial excrement and devoid of any redeeming qualities.

It was scientists who were saying that for almost 20 years about the brain. It's still on the web. Apparently you don't know what the definition of naysayer is.

(November 19, 2018 at 8:20 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 19, 2018 at 7:12 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: If you can't tell the difference between karma and vengeance then your gibberish is so bad that it isn't even wrong.

I'm glad that you've gotten clear of organized religion. Good luck on getting rid of disorganized religion and all the mumbo-jumbo that comes with it.

The links are right there. Pretend whatever makes you happy and keeps you in your delusional atheist bubble though.
 Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, Everyone will be salted with fire, Live by the sword, die by the sword, you reap what you sow, Consider what you hear, for with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you and even more (All examples of the concept of the Karma in the Bible and you have 2 links to Christian websites showing you numerous examples of karma in the Bible and here are examples from a Muslim website of Karma in Quran https://understandquran.com/quran-tell-us-karma-cc.html. Like it or not. Like it or not. Like it or not. And we all know exactly what it means.

And that is why an uncritical reading of religious propaganda will get you pwned by an atheist regarding religion. Those sites are like a pamphlet from Novartis titled "Why you need more Ritalin in your diet."

(November 19, 2018 at 8:45 pm)TwoKnives99 Wrote: Everenna,

Exodus 21:23-25 is referring to lex talionis, the law of retaliation, whereby a punishment resembles the offence committed in kind and degree.

That is not karma.

Karma would be 'if you cut out someone's left eye, you shall eventually lose your left eye in this life or the next'

Vengeance is 'he took your eye, you may take his, for it is proportionate retribution'

Vengeance and karma are not the same.

These laws were to be carried out by a government of people not by individuals utilizing vigilante justice.  It is part of a justice system and still holds true today (capital punishment).  Just to clarify.