(November 20, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:23 pm)Everena Wrote: Our reality always has been and always will be. We are all god and we are all special. The God created this universe and everything in it so our already existing souls could inhabit these fleshly bodies, made from stardust and water. We are doing so in order perfect ourselves enough to be deserving of an eternity in paradise.

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There is a why, and as I said because the whys are a fail for atheism, you try to ignore them in any way you can. Why do we even exist at all? Why does anything exist at all?

We don’t ignore them.  We blew past them exactly as if they didn’t exist,  because they didn’t exist.

You have blown passed nothing. You avoid them because you can't answer the whys, and because they prove you wrong. Science doesn't attempt to answer why because it's not their job to answer the whys of our existence, and they leave that to philosophy. Science only atthempts to understand how an already existing and operating universe works in order to improve our lives in numerous ways.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Reality has always been, at least since the beginning of time, and always will be, at least to the end of time,  yet few who even vaguely resemble a bipedal primate can have so little hope of accessing it at even most superficial level as you.

There was no "beginning of of time" just as there is no "end of time"

Provide a rigorous definition of time so we can rigorously evaluate whether it had a beginning or likely to have an end.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:23 pm)Everena Wrote: Our reality always has been and always will be. We are all god and we are all special. The God created this universe and everything in it so our already existing souls could inhabit these fleshly bodies, made from stardust and water. We are doing so in order perfect ourselves enough to be deserving of an eternity in paradise.

Uhm..... that's a nice reply. It's even some-what 'Poetical'.

It.... doesn't actually answer my question of "How does your Overmind interact with our reality 'Here' and 'Now'" though, does it?

Hey, if you have no idea, that’s okay too.

I am a deist in that respect. This planet with all it's social problems is up to us to fix.

(November 20, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 10:03 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I think the default is that the universe arose from natural causes like everything else,
no magic necessary. What was the process by which you think that intelligence you're convinced of came to be?
Natural: Existing or caused by nature; not artificial (existing or caused by design).

Everena: You did not adequately define natural. You're saying your cause for absolutely everything was caused by something that did not even exist yet? The term is vague and means nothing.

You understand that what you are saying is equivalent to you claiming that a large rock in your front yard turned itself into an entire universe with planets and conscious life for no apparent reason. That would require magic, because it would be literally impossible.

No, just physics.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:42 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Everena Wrote: There was no "beginning of of time" just as there is no "end of time"

Provide a rigorous definition of time so we can rigorously evaluate whether it had a beginning or likely to have an end.

Time is just a term used to describe the passing of hours, days, weeks, years.

At work.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:35 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Uhm..... that's a nice reply. It's even some-what 'Poetical'.

It.... doesn't actually answer my question of "How does your Overmind interact with our reality 'Here' and 'Now'" though, does it?

Hey, if you have no idea, that’s okay too.

I am a deist in that respect. This planet with all it's social problems is up to us to fix.

Uhm..... are you not understanding my posts?

How does your Overmind interact with our reality in the here and now?

Cheers?

(November 20, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: You did not adequately define natural. You're saying your cause for absolutely everything was caused by something that did not even exist yet? The term is vague and means nothing.

You understand that what you are saying is equivalent to you claiming that a large rock in your front yard turned itself into an entire universe with planets and conscious life for no apparent reason. That would require magic, because it would be literally impossible.

No, just physics.

Physics that came about how? Magically with no intelligence?

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(November 20, 2018 at 1:46 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Everena Wrote: I am a deist in that respect. This planet with all it's social problems is up to us to fix.

Uhm..... are you not understanding my posts?

How does your Overmind interact with our reality in the here and now?

Cheers?

I do not believe in a God that interacts with our reality, as I just said.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No, just physics.

Physics that came about how? Magically with no intelligence?

You've already said that you believe space-time has always existed. Were you lying about that?

At work.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 20, 2018 at 1:46 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Uhm..... are you not understanding my posts?

How does your Overmind interact with our reality in the here and now?

Cheers?

I do not believe in a God that interacts with our reality, as I just said.

So...... if your Overmind doesn't interact with our reality.....

What use/good/ 'Anything' is said Overmind?

It also kind of nixes your comments of 'Inteligence' being behind biology since your Overmind is, what?, 14 odd billion years ago in the past?

It also kind of implicates that, by your model/way of thinking, we're all just preprogrammed items going through preset motions.

(November 20, 2018 at 1:41 pm)Everena Wrote: You have blown passed nothing. You avoid them because you can't answer the whys, and because they prove you wrong. Science doesn't attempt to answer why because it's not their job to answer the whys of our existence, and they leave that to philosophy. Science only attempts to understand how an already existing and operating universe works in order to improve our lives in numerous ways.

You've already stated this nonsense, and it's been debunked.
Science definitely wants to understand HOW the present state of affairs evolved from a prior state of affairs.
Science tries to understand prior conditions, that led to present conditions.
Your 'already existing' is total BS, and is blatantly obvious to anyone who has actually studied science.
Ever hear of Paleontology ? LMFAO How does Paleontology try to improve our lives, today ? Take your time.
Please stop embarrassing yourself, Woo Princess.