(November 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Everena Wrote: It is only a core belief if they leave Mark 10:18 out of their Bible, where Jesus clearly states that he is not pure good and he is not the ONE true God. Christian beliefs vary, because there are different interpretations and we are all very different people. Some people can only envision God as a humanlike figure and that is all they are comfortable with. I could never see God as human even if I wanted to. Having different ideas about what God may really be does not change the teachings and moral concepts and basic core beliefs of the religion.

Okay, why don't you go preach that message to the Westboro Baptists.  We'll be calling you "Our Little Kashoggi."

I think she should be introduced to crown prince Muhammad.   They would truly deserve each other.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Everena Wrote: It is only a core belief if they leave Mark 10:18 out of their Bible, where Jesus clearly states that he is not pure good and he is not the ONE true God. Christian beliefs vary, because there are different interpretations and we are all very different people. Some people can only envision God as a humanlike figure and that is all they are comfortable with. I could never see God as human even if I wanted to. Having different ideas about what God may really be does not change the teachings and moral concepts and basic core beliefs of the religion.

Okay, why don't you go preach that message to the Westboro Baptists.  We'll be calling you "Our Little Kashoggi."

I would not preach to them because they are on the right path with God and are following what makes the most sense to them. What they think of me or anyone else doesn't really matter. God, who can read our intentions, is the only worthy judge of anyone.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Okay, why don't you go preach that message to the Westboro Baptists.  We'll be calling you "Our Little Kashoggi."

I would not preach to them because they are on the right path with God and are following what makes the most sense to them. What they think of me or anyone else doesn't really matter. God, who can read our intentions, is the only worthy judge of anyone.

The question was not whether they are on the right path or not, but whether they are on the same path as you. Are they a part of your 93%? What about the billion plus Catholics who also consider Jesus Christ's divinity core to their beliefs? Are they, too, a part of your 93%?

You didn't answer the first time, and I'd really like to know, what planet are you from, again?

(November 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Okay, why don't you go preach that message to the Westboro Baptists.  We'll be calling you "Our Little Kashoggi."

I would not preach to them because they are on the right path with God and are following what makes the most sense to them. What they think of me or anyone else doesn't really matter. God, who can read our intentions, is the only worthy judge of anyone.

On the right path and doing what makes sense to them?

So the Christian group in Africa that kidnaps kids, makes them kill their parents, then forces the boys to become soldiers and the girls to become sex slaves is okay because they feel they're on the right path to god and are doing what makes sense to them?

Yhis god of yours really lets his followers do whatever they want, don't they?

(November 22, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote: I would not preach to them because they are on the right path with God and are following what makes the most sense to them. What they think of me or anyone else doesn't really matter. God, who can read our intentions, is the only worthy judge of anyone.

The question was not whether they are on the right path or not, but whether they are on the same path as you.  Are they a part of your 93%?  What about the billion plus Catholics who also consider Jesus Christ's divinity core to their beliefs?  Are they, too, a part of your 93%?

You didn't answer the first time, and I'd really like to know, what planet are you from, again?

Of course they are part of the 93% and they believe much of the same things I do. Every Catholic has different personal beliefs and every Christian has different personal beliefs etc because individually, we are all very different. Some believe the Bible is meant to only be taken metaphorically and some believe it is the literal word of God. 18% of Christians think people wrote the bible and many Christians believe in reincarnation. 

What you keep bringing up though, is church doctrine. Though some may adhere strictly to church doctrine, nothing changes the actual message or teachings of the religion. And it is those moral teachings along with the belief in creator God, a soul, an afterlife, reward/redemption, perfect justice etc that unite us all.

(November 22, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The question was not whether they are on the right path or not, but whether they are on the same path as you.  Are they a part of your 93%?  What about the billion plus Catholics who also consider Jesus Christ's divinity core to their beliefs?  Are they, too, a part of your 93%?

You didn't answer the first time, and I'd really like to know, what planet are you from, again?

Of course they are part of the 93% and they believe much of the same things I do. Every Catholic has different personal beliefs and every Christian has different personal beliefs etc because individually, we are all very different. Some believe the Bible is meant to only be taken metaphorically and some believe it is the literal word of God. 18% of Christians think people wrote the bible and many Christians believe in reincarnation. 

What you keep bringing up though, is church doctrine. Though some may adhere strictly to church doctrine, nothing changes the actual message or teachings of the religion. And it is those moral teachings along with the belief in creator God, a soul, an afterlife, reward/redemption, perfect justice etc that unite us all.

I'm sorry, is there a shorter name by which you refer to your planet?

(November 22, 2018 at 1:07 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Everena Wrote: I would not preach to them because they are on the right path with God and are following what makes the most sense to them. What they think of me or anyone else doesn't really matter. God, who can read our intentions, is the only worthy judge of anyone.

On the right path and doing what makes sense to them?

So the Christian group in Africa that kidnaps kids, makes them kill their parents, then forces the boys to become soldiers and the girls to become sex slaves is okay because they feel they're on the right path to god and are doing what makes sense to them?

Yhis god of yours really lets his followers do whatever they want, don't they?

They are not Christians. The are evil people who only pretend to believe in God. They are taking the lords name in vain, not following the religions commandments or teachings. They are atheists playing a game.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 11:19 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Jesus could have easily preached, "It is, and has always been, immoral to own another human being as property. He who does not turn his face against it is a coward, and he who would practice it is lower than a beast."

A wonderful person? Not hardly.

He could not change the laws of the land, and perhaps he was trying to prevent them from being beaten or thrown out into the streets homeless.

You're making a pretty lame excuse for a guy who was allegedly willing to be crucified for his principles. It's more likely from the above verses, that as a pious Jew, he believed that slavery was okay.

(November 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Everena Wrote: Of course they are part of the 93% and they believe much of the same things I do. Every Catholic has different personal beliefs and every Christian has different personal beliefs etc because individually, we are all very different. Some believe the Bible is meant to only be taken metaphorically and some believe it is the literal word of God. 18% of Christians think people wrote the bible and many Christians believe in reincarnation. 

What you keep bringing up though, is church doctrine. Though some may adhere strictly to church doctrine, nothing changes the actual message or teachings of the religion. And it is those moral teachings along with the belief in creator God, a soul, an afterlife, reward/redemption, perfect justice etc that unite us all.

I'm sorry, is there a shorter name by which you refer to your planet?

We are all from a planet much better than this one, and we all return there when we die. The name? Well it's heaven compared to this place.

(November 22, 2018 at 1:28 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I'm sorry, is there a shorter name by which you refer to your planet?

We are all from a planet much better than this one, and we all return there when we die. The name? Well it's heaven compared to this place.

Is that a no?