(November 22, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 3:30 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Oh pullease, it's well known that the Jews didn't have anything against enslaving foreigners.  Apparently cherry picking your evidence is a skill you've mastered well.

Menstealers, definition, kidnapper.  https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/menstealers/

(And I'll note that because it can mean something other than slaver, it doesn't necessarily mean slaver in that passage.  Got anything else, shit for brains?)

That is the way it's translated in every other version of the Bible and they are the ones who studied the original language, so you are wrong as usual.

Quote:8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

1 Timothy 1:8-11, NASB

I realize you never tire of being wrong, but seriously honey, you oughta pace yourself or you might run out of wrong things to say.

(November 22, 2018 at 3:21 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Practically the entire world agrees with most of my beliefs. I am not worried about what some deluded atheists think, whose idea of fun is to insult and lie about people who are much smarter than they are.

False. 

You have a bat-shit crazy cult of one. Virtually NONE of the major world religions agree with any of the bullshit you cooked up for your
hilarious cult of one. 

You claim you use logic, while in the same breath employ the ad populum FALLACY. 

You're one giant JOKE. If you actually didn't care what atheists think, you wouldn't HAVE COME to an atheist site, and spent SO much time here. And here you are. 

LMFAO

You claim atheists are deluded ... while AT THE SAME TIME you sited Roger Penrose, (a deluded atheist) to support your rubbish. 

 Have a nice day, Woo Princess.

Wrong fool. Christians, Muslims, Judaists, Hindus, Jainists, Scientologists, and most new agers all believe in a creator God, a soul that exists separately from the body, in reward/redemption and a form of perfect justice, and in an afterlife. Also, we share very similiar beliefs regarding morality. The details for each of us individually may vary, but the core beliefs are the same. You just don't want to think you will ever be held accountable for your actions, and so you don't want to face the fact the vast majority of the world believes such similiar things. And you have no clue whether what I believe is true or not. You just think putting people down is a great way to have fun because that is the level of intelligence and maturity you are at. Penrose is not really an atheist in any conventional sense,  and if you had ever listened to anything the man had to say regarding consciousness, or read anything he has written (like the Emporers New Mind), you would know that. And I came to this site because I enjoy debating this topic. And I am still right and you are still wrong and the best part is, some day you will know that (and you will be glad)

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(November 22, 2018 at 3:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Everena Wrote: That is the way it's translated in every other version of the Bible and they are the ones who studied the original language, so you are wrong as usual.

Quote:8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

1 Timothy 1:8-11, NASB

I realize you never tire of being wrong, but seriously honey, you oughta pace yourself or you might run out of wrong things to say.  

The slave owners were the kidnappers at that time, stealing children and making them into their slaves. Why don't you just immediately understand things like that?

Quote:8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

1 Timothy 1:8-11, NASB

The "law" ? Seriously. 
Timothy talking about the law ? The JEWISH law, that Christians, (according to Paul) were freed from ? 

Not only is your cult of one, NOT in agreement with major religions, YOU don't even know anything about any of them.

(November 22, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 3:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I realize you never tire of being wrong, but seriously honey, you oughta pace yourself or you might run out of wrong things to say.  

The slave owners were the kidnappers at that time, stealing children and making them into their slaves. Why don't you just immediately understand things like that?

Why? Because I actually understand that the word also refers to other things as such, so understanding it as necessarily thus is a logical error.

Why do you understand things in such a flawed and incorrect way? Do you practice head-butting with a steel pole on a regular basis?

It's not so much that the understanding is flawed, but that the designer installed a few extra bats in the belfry.

(November 22, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 3:21 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: False. 

You have a bat-shit crazy cult of one. Virtually NONE of the major world religions agree with any of the bullshit you cooked up for your
hilarious cult of one. 

You claim you use logic, while in the same breath employ the ad populum FALLACY. 

You're one giant JOKE. If you actually didn't care what atheists think, you wouldn't HAVE COME to an atheist site, and spent SO much time here. And here you are. 

LMFAO

You claim atheists are deluded ... while AT THE SAME TIME you sited Roger Penrose, (a deluded atheist) to support your rubbish. 

 Have a nice day, Woo Princess.

Wrong fool. Christians, Muslims, Judaists, Hindus, Jainists, Scientologists, and most new agers all believe in a creator God, a soul that exists separately from the body, in reward/redemption and a form of perfect justice, and in an afterlife. Also, we share very similiar beliefs regarding morality. The details for each of us individually may vary, but the core beliefs are the same. You just don't want to think you will ever be held accountable for your actions, and so you don't want to face the fact the vast majority of the world believes such similiar things. And you have no clue whether what I believe is true or not. You just think putting people down is a great way to have fun because that is the level of intelligence and maturity you are at. Penrose is not really an atheist in any conventional sense,  and if you had ever listened to anything the man had to say regarding consciousness, or read anything he has written (like the Emporers New Mind), you would know that. And I came to this site because I enjoy debating this topic. And I am still right and you are still wrong and the best part is, some day you will know that (and you will be glad)

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(November 22, 2018 at 3:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I realize you never tire of being wrong, but seriously honey, you oughta pace yourself or you might run out of wrong things to say.  

The slave owners were the kidnappers at that time, stealing children and making them into their slaves. Why don't you just immediately understand things like that?

Because no one is as conceited and delusional as you?

Because only retarded wishthinking morons like you who wasted every breath they ever took and learned nothing in their so called life can possibly believe in immediately understand things?

Quote:Everena

Quote:Wrong fool. Christians, Muslims, Judaists, Hindus, Jainists, Scientologists, and most new agers all believe in a creator God, a soul that exists separately from the body, in reward/redemption and a form of perfect justice, and in an afterlife. Also, we share very similar beliefs regarding morality. The details for each of us individually may vary, but the core beliefs are the same. You just don't want to think you will ever be held accountable for your actions, and so you don't want to face the fact the vast majority of the world believes such similar things. And you have no clue whether what I believe is true or not.

Not one of the major religions believes in the hilarious bullshit of souls in other universes, having existed forever. Christianity, Islam and most other religions do NOT buy your utter shit that souls existed forever. So yeah. The major religions are in opposition to the cult of one you cooked up from nothing.

You care a GREAT deal what atheists think. Here you are. LOL

Penrose SAID he was an atheist, and you have no evidence for your made-up shit that he isn't. Lying to yourself seems to be one of your best qualities. 

Quote:And I am still right and you are still wrong and the best part is, some day you will know that (and you will be glad)

LMFAO  Are you like a 12 year old ?

(November 22, 2018 at 4:14 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 22, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Everena Wrote: The slave owners were the kidnappers at that time, stealing children and making them into their slaves. Why don't you just immediately understand things like that?

Why?  Because I actually understand that the word also refers to other things as such, so understanding it as necessarily thus is a logical error.

Why do you understand things in such a flawed and incorrect way?  Do you practice head-butting with a steel pole on a regular basis?

Not recently. Aren't you having Turkey today?

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(November 22, 2018 at 4:29 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Everena

Not one of the major religions believes in the hilarious bullshit of souls in other universes, having existed forever. Christianity, Islam and most other religions do NOT buy your utter shit that souls existed forever. So yeah. The major religions are in opposition to the cult of one you cooked up from nothing.

You care a GREAT deal what atheists think. Here you are. LOL

Penrose SAID he was an atheist, and you have no evidence for your made-up shit that he isn't. Lying to yourself seems to be one of your best qualities. 


LMFAO  Are you like a 12 year old ?

I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe. And they do believe in the concept of the soul and in eternal life of the soul. So you are just grasping for straws.. we agree on far more than we disagree on.

Penrose may still say that, and maybe he cannot prove there is a God so he rejects the idea of God based on the seeing is believing principle, but he believes in the human soul. Read or listen to anything by him instead of running your mouth like a foolish child. No, I'm not 12. Are you like 16 though, because you sound like you have never outgrown high school.

Quote:I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe.

Either they ARE there or they are not. Now you're trying to hedge, as you've been debunked. NO other religion says ANYTHING like that.
I don't have to grasp at straws, as you have of now, provided NOT ONE shred of evidence for your crap.

Quote:we agree on far more than we disagree on.

Actually you are totally ignorant of what they believe. BILLIONS of Catholics believe there is no salvation outside the church. You have nothing in common. It's your fantasy.

Quote:Penrose may still say that, and maybe he cannot prove there is a God so he rejects the idea of God based on the seeing is believing principle, but he believes in the human soul.

Prove it. Not in the way YOU mean "soul", in terms of an immortal soul.

Quote:Are you like 16 though, because you sound like you have never outgrown high school.

And you sound like a junior high valley girl. Like fer sure.

99 % of the world used to think the world was flat. According to your logic they must have been right.

Everena: I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe.

Either they ARE there or they are not. Now you're trying to hedge, as you've been debunked. NO other religion says ANYTHING like that.
I don't have to grasp at straws, as you have of now, provided NOT ONE shred of evidence for your crap.

Everena: If they can come up with a more logical explanation for how our souls inhabit this flesh and how we move to another plane of existence when we die, then I will consider it. 
"we agree on far more than we disagree on."

Actually you are totally ignorant of what they believe. BILLIONS of Catholics believe there is no salvation outside the church. You have nothing in common. It's your fantasy.

Everena: There are only 1.2 billion catholics in the world, not billions, and you have no idea what they individually believe. Also, you are stating church doctrine, and I have already been saved by Jesus, and been baptized.

"Penrose may still say that, and maybe he cannot prove there is a God so he rejects the idea of God based on the seeing is believing principle, but he believes in the human soul."

Prove it. Not in the way YOU mean "soul", in terms of an immortal soul.

Everena: I already provided you with a youtuve video of him that you obviously just ignored. And yes it is in the exact same way I believe in a soul. All concepts of the human soul are pretty similiar.