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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Everena

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote:
Quote:I don't believe in souls in other universes. I believe our true selves/souls are existing in superposition, here and in another universe.

Apparently you don't even know what "superposition" means. 

Quote:If they can come up with a more logical explanation for how our souls inhabit this flesh and how we move to another plane of existence when we die, then I will consider it. 

They don't have to. There is no evidence for souls, and until YOU provide it. no one has to do anything. 


Quote:There are only 1.2 billion catholics in the world, not billions, and you have no idea what they individually believe.

Gotcha.
Thanks for falling for my little trap. 
Exactly. 
AND NEITHER DO YOU. LMAO

Quote:I already provided you with a youtuve video of him that you obviously just ignored. And yes it is in the exact same way I believe in a soul. All concepts of the human soul are pretty similiar.

Prove it. 
Assertion. No evidence. Dismissed. The video said no such thing. It discussed the possibility of quantum interactions in micro tubules. 
Micro tubules are PHYSICAL. Souls are not. You don't even know what you are reading ... proven here over and over. 
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 1:45 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: You're making a pretty lame excuse for a guy who was allegedly willing to be crucified for his principles. It's more likely from the above verses, that as a pious Jew, he believed that slavery was okay.

No, that really does not seem to the case according to the New Testament.


Ephesians 6:9 New International Version (NIV)
And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Colossians 4:1 New International Version (NIV)
Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.


1 Timothy 1:8. 1:9. 1:10 New International Version (NIV)
We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.


Still lame, since slavery is an abomination, regardless of how liberal you practice it. "Slave traders" in Timothy 1:10 does not refer to legitimate slave traders, but to those who kidnap men women or children to force them into slavery.
See that verse in the KJV = men stealers.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Everena, even if literally everyone on Earth believed in souls, the physical evidence currently available suggests that they're probably all wrong. Yes. All 7.7 billion of them.

And belief in souls, life after death and perfect justice is a particularly useless way to deal with one's mortality.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 7:34 pm)Astreja Wrote: Everena, even if literally everyone on Earth believed in souls, the physical evidence currently available suggests that they're probably all wrong. Yes. All 7.7 billion of them.

And belief in souls, life after death and perfect justice is a particularly useless way to deal with one's mortality.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 12:03 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 1:18 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, you have to believe it in your heart when you say it.  That is even more important than physically saying it.

And that's precisely the point, isn't it. 
If one actually HONESTLY doesn't buy into religious nonsense, then, being honest, one can't say it. 
So according to you and your system, ... then, one is going to hell for being honest. 

It's just the biggest pile of horse shit imaginable.  
AND according to your system, it's YOUR GOD'S fault ...

"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, it is not from works, so that no-one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8

That's predestination.  The Lord already knows everything and knows who will be saved and who won't.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
Quote:I didn't believe Jesus was God until I attended a Bible study on the deity of Jesus and it was convincing.  There were numerous verses referenced in the presentation.  I have an Excel file with all the verses but I cannot attach it here.  Ultimately, Jesus is the Son of God in the Triune godhead.  Even in the beginning of the Bible the relationship of God within himself is shown when the Scriptures state, let us create man in our image, after our likeness.  There are other instances of the Triune godhead in the OT.

Actually those plural references are due to the fact that the Hebrew priests took their myths from Babylonian mythology, in which El Elyon was the chief of the council of gods. 
It has NOTHING at all to do with a triune god, (which ANY JEW would tell you IS NOT what any Jew, then or now, bought into).
A "son of god" for Jews did not, EVER mean what Christians turned it into.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articl...son-of-god

"The Pious as Sons of God.
The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha contain a few passages in which the title "son of God" is given to the Messiah (see Enoch, cv. 2; IV Esdras vii. 28-29; xiii. 32, 37, 52; xiv. 9); but the title belongs also to any one whose piety has placed him in a filial relation to God (see Wisdom ii. 13, 16, 18; v. 5, where "the sons of God" are identical with "the saints"; comp. Ecclus. [Sirach] iv. 10). It is through such personal relations that the individual becomes conscious of God's fatherhood, and gradually in Hellenistic and rabbinical literature "sonship to God" was ascribed first to every Israelite and then to every member of the human race (Abot iii. 15, v. 20; Ber. v. 1; see Abba). The God-childship of man has been especially accentuated in modern Jewish theology, in sharp contradistinction to the Christian God-sonship of Jesus. The application of the term "son of God" to the Messiah rests chiefly on Ps. ii. 7, and the other Messianic passages quoted above."

Son of man is also used to reference the Messiah; specifically in the Book of Daniel.  The diety of Jesus is clear in the OT and NT.  I have a bible study chart showing all the verses related to Jesus as the Son of God.  The Jews just misunderstand their own Scriptures.  Look at Isaiah 53.  That is definitely talking about the Lord Jesus.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 7:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: That's predestination.  The Lord already knows everything and knows who will be saved and who won't.

Predestination will immediately land you in a scenario where we have no free will.
Are you sure you want to argue for that?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 12:10 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 11:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: Exactly.  I doubt we ever see it. The Bible describes things getting worse in the end times, not better.

Thanks for answering. I've been curious for a while. What do you think about New Agers and their beliefs? Would you consider them to be Christians and therefore have already been saved by grace through faith [in Jesus Christ]?

No problem.

Wow, good question.  Based on my interpretation of Scriptures, in general, I do not believe they are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.  I feel they do not follow Jesus as the Son of God based on the Scriptures.  Personally, I pray for their salvation.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:13 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 11:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: The Lord is not silent on this matter.  See Deuteronomy 22:25 - 27, "But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her."

More information about rape in the Bible is below:

https://erlc.com/resource-library/articl...al-assault

Yes, but it also says this:

Deuteronomy 22:23-24

“If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.”

Victim blaming at its finest!  Why couldn't we have a commandment against rape?  Because your narcissistic God was taking up several otherwise good slots for his own onanistic endeavours.



(November 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Everena Wrote: He could not change the laws of the land, and perhaps he was trying to prevent them from being beaten or thrown out into the streets homeless.

He couldn't?  Just how impotent is your favorite shrieking ball of don't care, just suck my dick?

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The girl was allowing it to happen and consenting to it.  She was committing adultery that is why she did not cry out for help.

(November 22, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 12:20 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You don't think believing that Jesus is God is a core belief with Christians, and that your not believing it is similar to their doing so?

What planet do you hail from, again, Princess?

It is only a core belief if they leave Mark 10:18 out of their Bible, where Jesus clearly states that he is not pure good and he is not the ONE true God. Christian beliefs vary, because there are different interpretations and we are all very different people. Some people can only envision God as a humanlike figure and that is all they are comfortable with. I could never see God as human even if I wanted to. Having different ideas about what God may really be does not change the teachings and moral concepts and basic core beliefs of the religion.

Hey Everena, if you are interested, below is a brief commentary on Mark 10:18:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/commenta...10-18.html
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 12:11 pm)Everena Wrote: Practically the entire world agrees with most of my beliefs. I am not worried about what some deluded atheists think, whose idea of fun is to insult and lie about people who are much smarter than they are.

You must have been very lonely, friendless and lacking in any creditable adult accomplishements or life choices for you to seek so hard faux validation in pretending how many people agree with you, and bragging about being smart, cuz, like, you’ve “been to college”, which as we all know, is a singlarly incontravertable mark of not being stupid in a 21st century first world country, just as would be, no doubt, if 93% of the least educated and most gullible had actually agreed with you.

No wonder you are in hell.   Heaven’s standard is just too high.

You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life to than insult random people on the internet that you know nothing about and have never met.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Everena

(November 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Apparently you don't even know what "superposition" means. 


They don't have to. There is no evidence for souls, and until YOU provide it. no one has to do anything. 



Gotcha.
Thanks for falling for my little trap. 
Exactly. 
AND NEITHER DO YOU. LMAO


Prove it. 
Assertion. No evidence. Dismissed. The video said no such thing. It discussed the possibility of quantum interactions in micro tubules. 
Micro tubules are PHYSICAL. Souls are not. You don't even know what you are reading ... proven here over and over. 
No, you are just not familiar with their theory which is that the brain is merely a receiver of our conscoiusness and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 22, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: You must have been very lonely, friendless and lacking in any creditable adult accomplishements or life choices for you to seek so hard faux validation in pretending how many people agree with you, and bragging about being smart, cuz, like, you’ve “been to college”, which as we all know, is a singlarly incontravertable mark of not being stupid in a 21st century first world country, just as would be, no doubt, if 93% of the least educated and most gullible had actually agreed with you.

No wonder you are in hell.   Heaven’s standard is just too high.

You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life to than insult random people on the internet that you know nothing about and have never met.

(November 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Everena
No, you are just not familiar with their theory which is that the brain is merely a receiver of our conscoiusness and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain.

Fact: Male hospital patients fall out of bed twice as often as female hospital patients.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 22, 2018 at 8:49 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(June 26, 2018 at 8:34 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a scientific thread with religious implications.  Then I was asked religious questions which is understandable.

(November 22, 2018 at 8:31 pm)Everena Wrote: You must be some lowlife loser who has nothing better to do with his life to than insult random people on the internet that you know nothing about and have never met.

No, you are just not familiar with their theory which is that the brain is merely a receiver of our conscoiusness and we are quite possibly receiving it from outside the brain.

Fact: Male hospital patients fall out of bed twice as often as female hospital patients.

They're pushed.

Evil nurse ghosts.

Honest!
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