Quote: Imagine skinning a sheep with bare hands.

I don’t have to imagine it.

Boru

(November 27, 2018 at 10:42 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The huge number of planets that we can't survive on is another indication that we weren't made for this place at all.

I agree. We weren't made at all. We just happened. If unnatural means the product of intentional design, then yes, some things we do aren't natural. And some apples are green. So what? The only way you get to any kind of conclusion is by making judgements about this state of affairs, and your judgements are purely arbitrary. We interact with our environment. So what? So does every living thing.

Google - Douglas Adams' mudpuddle theory..

(November 27, 2018 at 10:24 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: To live on earth, humans must adapt to it.
We literally have nothing natural that allow us to naturally survive the conditions of earth.

That's untrue. We are simply unsuited to life outside of the tropical regions in which we evolved. We have spread beyond those regions because we can adapt, wear skins, make baseboard heaters, etc...

Quote:1-To survive the cold, we wear "the hide of other creatures" that  already exist on earth.

Not in the tropics.

Quote:2-To eat, we must consume organisms that already exist on earth.
3-To move, we must have energy. Energy comes from eating.
4-To consume life on a big scale to survive, we must use organisms or materials already existing on earth. Imagine skinning a sheep with bare hands.
5-Life kills us. Science proved that we are being pressured by an invisible force called "Atmospheric pressure".

Just like all other life on Earth. It would be far more shocking if we didn't have to eat and if we weren't eaten by something.

Certain parasites are exclusive to our species. They can't live without us. Interestingly, they are found exclusively in sub-Saharan Africa.

(December 1, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 27, 2018 at 10:24 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: To live on earth, humans must adapt to it.
We literally have nothing natural that allow us to naturally survive the conditions of earth.

That's untrue. We are simply unsuited to life outside of the tropical regions in which we evolved. We have spread beyond those regions because we can adapt, wear skins, make baseboard heaters, etc...

Having "nothing natural to survive earth" does not refer to "earth itself"; it refers to "ourselves".
In other words; you have no natural mechanism in your own body that ensures the production of food, drink and air.

You need the O2 from earth's atmoshphere.
You need the water from earth's surface/underground.
You need the food from creatures that already live on earth.

(December 2, 2018 at 1:49 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 1, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: That's untrue. We are simply unsuited to life outside of the tropical regions in which we evolved. We have spread beyond those regions because we can adapt, wear skins, make baseboard heaters, etc...

Having "nothing natural to survive earth" does not refer to "earth itself"; it refers to "ourselves".
In other words; you have no natural mechanism in your own body that ensures the production of food, drink and air.

You need the O2 from earth's atmoshphere.

Good thing there's 02 here, the, huh?

Quote:You need the water from earth's surface/underground.

Good thing there's water, here...then...huh?

Quote:You need the food from creatures that already live on earth.

Good thing there's food.......here..........then......huh?

None of those three things is the case in so many other places, and whatever point you wish to explain how any of those things are "unnatural" or how any of those things support the notion that we weren't "made for" the place where those things exist...remains a mystery.

I say that rhetorically, it's not a mystery...you're just not very smart..that's why you think silly things.

1-To survive the cold, we wear "the hide of other creatures" that  already exist on earth.

That doesn't mean we weren't meant to live on Earth, that means we weren't meant to live in climates that weren't tropical.

2-To eat, we must consume organisms that already exist on earth.
3-To move, we must have energy. Energy comes from eating.

So does literally every other animal on Earth, what's your point?

4-To consume life on a big scale to survive, we must use organisms or materials already existing on earth. Imagine skinning a sheep with bare hands.

Insert Wikipedia article on tool use by animals from ants to chimpanzees here

5-Life kills us. Science proved that we are being pressured by an invisible force called "Atmospheric pressure".

True, but, in practice, atmospheric pressure is your friend. Less atmospheric pressure is actually more likely to kill you than more. Of course, that's mostly because it's easier to find situations of dangerously low atmospheric pressure than dangerously high pressure (e.g. high elevation or storm conditions.) And here's an article on how lower atmospheric pressure can affect bodies. It focuses on the effects of lower pressures because, honestly, the highest recorded atmospheric pressure on earth is 1.07 atm and the lowest is 0.85, so there's more problems with lower pressures.


We don't belong. And the more we invent reasons to belong; the more we get a severe sickness called "depression".

Odd, this sounds a bit more Taoist than Muslim.

(December 2, 2018 at 1:49 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(December 1, 2018 at 6:23 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: That's untrue. We are simply unsuited to life outside of the tropical regions in which we evolved. We have spread beyond those regions because we can adapt, wear skins, make baseboard heaters, etc...

Having "nothing natural to survive earth" does not refer to "earth itself"; it refers to "ourselves".
In other words; you have no natural mechanism in your own body that ensures the production of food, drink and air.

You need the O2 from earth's atmoshphere.
You need the water from earth's surface/underground.
You need the food from creatures that already live on earth.

This is the same for every organism on the planet. Ever see a hermetically sealed monkey? That would be unnatural!