(December 2, 2018 at 8:22 am)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:Yes, our systems are designed to fail and we are designed to die.  That is the way it is.

Which is indistinguishable from a system that's simple isn't designed and the second part is simply an assertion  

Quote:By the way, there are no intermediates based on the fossil record.  Just series of explosions of life.  That is why I do not believe in macroevolution at this level (humans, animals,...).

False we have tons of them and your maybe up goal post distinction it occurs if you like it or not

Where are the intermediates in the fossil record?

(December 2, 2018 at 8:32 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:22 am)Amarok Wrote: Which is indistinguishable from a system that's simple isn't designed and the second part is simply an assertion  


False we have tons of them and your maybe up goal post distinction it occurs if you like it or not

Where are the intermediates in the fossil record?

Seriously there huge list of them go look it up

Of course i full expect you to start defining  intermediate in some BS creationist terms as to deny they exist . That's they way your side plays .

(December 2, 2018 at 8:36 am)Amarok Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:32 am)CDF47 Wrote: Where are the intermediates in the fossil record?

Seriously there huge list of them go look it up

Of course i full expect you to start defining  intermediate in some BS creationist terms as to deny they exist . That's they way your side plays .

https://evolutionnews.org/2015/01/problem_5_abrup/

(December 2, 2018 at 8:59 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:36 am)Amarok Wrote: Seriously there huge list of them go look it up

Of course i full expect you to start defining  intermediate in some BS creationist terms as to deny they exist . That's they way your side plays .

https://evolutionnews.org/2015/01/problem_5_abrup/

1. Creationist propaganda 
2. This Problem isn't a problem or an argument against intermediates 
3. This doesn't refute intermediates in the fossil record 

So this post was a waste

(December 2, 2018 at 8:59 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:36 am)Amarok Wrote: Seriously there huge list of them go look it up

Of course i full expect you to start defining  intermediate in some BS creationist terms as to deny they exist . That's they way your side plays .

https://evolutionnews.org/2015/01/problem_5_abrup/

Oh look. Asked about specific details... Runs off to religious web page.

*Rolls eyes*

 Okay then, CDF47, in your guess/opinion just what are all the myriad bone shaped rocks we keep finding all over the place?

Not at work.

(December 2, 2018 at 9:18 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:59 am)CDF47 Wrote: https://evolutionnews.org/2015/01/problem_5_abrup/

Oh look. Asked about specific details... Runs off to religious web page.

*Rolls eyes*

 Okay then, CDF47, in your guess/opinion just what are all the myriad bone shaped rocks we keep finding all over the place?

Not at work.

No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone.

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(December 2, 2018 at 9:16 am)Amarok Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 8:59 am)CDF47 Wrote: https://evolutionnews.org/2015/01/problem_5_abrup/

1. Creationist propaganda 
2. This Problem isn't a problem or an argument against intermediates 
3. This doesn't refute intermediates in the fossil record 

So this post was a waste

Of course you would call it propaganda.

(December 2, 2018 at 9:35 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 9:18 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Oh look. Asked about specific details... Runs off to religious web page.

*Rolls eyes*

 Okay then, CDF47, in your guess/opinion just what are all the myriad bone shaped rocks we keep finding all over the place?

Not at work.

No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone.

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(December 2, 2018 at 9:16 am)Amarok Wrote: 1. Creationist propaganda 
2. This Problem isn't a problem or an argument against intermediates 
3. This doesn't refute intermediates in the fossil record 

So this post was a waste

Of course you would call it propaganda.

I call it that because that's what it is

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Quote:No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone

Yes you can

(December 2, 2018 at 9:38 am)Amarok Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 9:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone.

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Of course you would call it propaganda.

I call it that because that's what it is

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Quote:No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone

Yes you can

It's not that.

No, you shouldn't.  It hurts credibility to do that.  Unless you are thinking of some other way to compare them, LOL.

(December 2, 2018 at 9:40 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 2, 2018 at 9:38 am)Amarok Wrote: I call it that because that's what it is

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Yes you can

It's not that.

No, you shouldn't.  It hurts credibility to do that.  Unless you are thinking of some other way to compare them, LOL.

1. Yes it's propaganda 

2.No it does not and yes we can compare them

(December 1, 2018 at 10:55 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(December 1, 2018 at 1:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: There is no evidence of conscious life ever evolving at the macro level.

You STILL didn’t answer my question.  Third time’s a charm?

If organisms like plants and fruit flies can speciate; and it has been demonstrsted that they can, and do; why wouldn’t larger, more complex species be able to do so?  You’re making an assertion that there is some line to be drawn (at consciousness?) where, past that line, speciation is no longer biologically possible.  You need to support that claim with evidence.

@CDF

Still waiting on an answer to this.