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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 10:32 am
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Quote:Yes, our systems are designed to fail and we are designed to die. That is the way it is.
Quote:For instance, the human body plan. Look at all the redundancy built in.
Our systems designed to fail? Why the redundancies then? A minute ago you argued that the human body "blueprint" and its redundancies are evidence of design?
The redundancies to avoid failure of single system functions are proof of design, but the setup of the whole system to fail is.....not evidence to the contrary, but "the way it is"? 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 11:05 am
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(December 2, 2018 at 10:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (December 1, 2018 at 10:55 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: You STILL didn’t answer my question. Third time’s a charm?
If organisms like plants and fruit flies can speciate; and it has been demonstrsted that they can, and do; why wouldn’t larger, more complex species be able to do so? You’re making an assertion that there is some line to be drawn (at consciousness?) where, past that line, speciation is no longer biologically possible. You need to support that claim with evidence.
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Still waiting on an answer to this.
Based on the fossil record, it does not appear that there were small changes adding to huge changes for humans or animals. The intermediates do not exist. See the article I posted in a prior post above.
(December 2, 2018 at 10:32 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Quote:Yes, our systems are designed to fail and we are designed to die. That is the way it is.
Quote:For instance, the human body plan. Look at all the redundancy built in.
Our systems designed to fail? Why the redundancies then? A minute ago you argued that the human body "blueprint" and its redundancies are evidence of design?
The redundancies to avoid failure of single system functions are proof of design, but the setup of the whole system to fail is.....not evidence to the contrary, but "the way it is"?
There are many redundancies in the body plans of humans, animals, and insects. Also, yes, we are designed to fail and die in the end. That is as expected after the fall of humanity.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 11:42 am
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Quote:Based on the fossil record, it does not appear that there were small changes adding to huge changes for humans or animals. The intermediates do not exist. See the article I posted in a prior post above
Yes it does . Yes they do . Your article does not refute them.
Quote:There are many redundancies in the body plans of humans, animals, and insects. Also, yes, we are designed to fail and die in the end. That is as expected after the fall of humanity.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:07 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 11:42 am)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Based on the fossil record, it does not appear that there were small changes adding to huge changes for humans or animals. The intermediates do not exist. See the article I posted in a prior post above
Yes it does . Yes they do . Your article does not refute them.
Quote:There are many redundancies in the body plans of humans, animals, and insects. Also, yes, we are designed to fail and die in the end. That is as expected after the fall of humanity.
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No, it doesn't. No, they don't. Yes, it does.
BS.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:16 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 12:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 11:42 am)Amarok Wrote: Yes it does . Yes they do . Your article does not refute them.
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No, it doesn't. No, they don't. Yes, it does.
BS. Yes it does . Yes they do . No it does not .
BS.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:26 pm
When will you learn Amarok, a magic book written thousands of years ago, by cave dwelling goat herders is far more scientifically accurate than anything modern. Sheesh!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:28 pm
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(December 2, 2018 at 12:26 pm)no one Wrote: When will you learn Amarok, a magic book written thousands of years ago, by cave dwelling goat herders is far more scientifically accurate than anything modern. Sheesh! And evolution news ( a ID propaganda site ) is scientific 
Quote:God's choice is the best choice.
Nope his choice is BS
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 9:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 9:18 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Oh look. Asked about specific details... Runs off to religious web page.
*Rolls eyes*
Okay then, CDF47, in your guess/opinion just what are all the myriad bone shaped rocks we keep finding all over the place?
Not at work.
No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone.
Uhm.. wha?
"Digital information" inside DNA?
What? 'Digital' meaning, like, in electronics.. Which means 'Binary' (On or off)?
I also asked you what you think those bone shaped rocks are?
As in... People find discreet, differentiated rocks within other rocks that, when carefully extracted look an aweful lot like bones. To the point of nigh on complete skeletons of rock/bones are extracted.
What are they?
Not at work.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm
(December 2, 2018 at 11:05 am)CDF47 Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 10:32 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Our systems designed to fail? Why the redundancies then? A minute ago you argued that the human body "blueprint" and its redundancies are evidence of design?
The redundancies to avoid failure of single system functions are proof of design, but the setup of the whole system to fail is.....not evidence to the contrary, but "the way it is"?
There are many redundancies in the body plans of humans, animals, and insects. Also, yes, we are designed to fail and die in the end. That is as expected after the fall of humanity. Just repeating your statement after i pointed out how its inconsistent with another statement of yours is like stomping your feet and shouting "nuhh...uhh". Repeating  after being called out for doesnt make it less
Its also evidence that you arent arguing in good faith. A honest person would admit to his/her mistakes. You dont. You dont care for reason. You are a preacher. As you claimed yourself on a christian website.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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(December 2, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Amarok Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 12:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, it doesn't. No, they don't. Yes, it does.
BS. Yes it does . Yes they do . No it does not .
BS.
No, No, Yes
BS
(December 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 9:35 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, you can't compare the digital information in DNA or the molecular machines found in cells to a rock that is shaped like a bone.
Uhm.. wha?
"Digital information" inside DNA?
What? 'Digital' meaning, like, in electronics.. Which means 'Binary' (On or off)?
I also asked you what you think those bone shaped rocks are?
As in... People find discreet, differentiated rocks within other rocks that, when carefully extracted look an aweful lot like bones. To the point of nigh on complete skeletons of rock/bones are extracted.
What are they?
Not at work.
No, digital as in digital information. Not all digital information is binary (on/off). DNA genetic code is a naturally designed form of digital data storage. Also, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_data
(December 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (December 2, 2018 at 11:05 am)CDF47 Wrote: There are many redundancies in the body plans of humans, animals, and insects. Also, yes, we are designed to fail and die in the end. That is as expected after the fall of humanity. Just repeating your statement after i pointed out how its inconsistent with another statement of yours is like stomping your feet and shouting "nuhh...uhh". Repeating after being called out for doesnt make it less
Its also evidence that you arent arguing in good faith. A honest person would admit to his/her mistakes. You dont. You dont care for reason. You are a preacher. As you claimed yourself on a christian website.
Not sure what you are talking about. Also, I never claimed to be a preacher on a Christian forum.
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