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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 10:49 pm
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(December 9, 2018 at 9:19 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:There next phase is testing and verification of projects based on ID hypotheses.
Which will never happen
It's already happening. They are making predictions as well based on ID and they are successful from what I understand. They had an example but I cannot remember it now. It has been a long time since I seen it.
(December 9, 2018 at 9:22 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There next phase is testing and verification of projects based on ID hypotheses.
What you think it was faked? It is not the only source reporting this.
Huh? 'Next phase'? What? The hypothesis kind of hase to be falsifyable first as well.
How do you falsify a diety? Also... just positing a 'Designer'... doesn't actually do alot, other than kick the can a step further down the road.
I.E. If the (Hypothetical) Designer 'designed'... Uhm... Actually... At what level do you say your Designer is doing things? Just life? Just planetary systems? Just Universal systems? A combination of those? All of those? bits or none? Any-who, you're saying a Designer designed things so... how did your Designer come to be?
Never said 'Faked'. I posted 'Poor'' you can also use the word 'Biased'.
Not at work.
Based on the information in DNA, knowing I was designed, I believe in the Christian God of the Bible. I believe we are sinners in the hands of angry God. I am not perfect but I obey the Ten Commandments, plus the two which those Ten com from. Since I believe this, I believe God is in control of it all and created it all. I believe He is the primordial One that always existed and which everything else is of His creation. I believe He lives in an infinite space known as heaven.
(December 9, 2018 at 9:57 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Arizona State University is a cult? Well that's interesting. You're making it very hard to take anything you say seriously.
If the group in question are attempting to impose concept or activities onto atheism then yes they are acting no differently then the "atheist church " which is a cult.
Quote:Specifically, it's a service by the Secular Freethought Society of Arizona State University.
Yes i know what it is and as i explain above
Quote:You could've just went to the YT page and looked.
I looked doesn't change my answer
So again you have failed to demonstrate atheism is a religion
Having some of the same rights as a religion does not make it a religion
Pointing to some loons imposing values and rituals that have nothing to do with atheism does not make it a religion
Appealing to journals while not actually providing a real argument does not make it a religion
Pointing to some loons at a university doing the same loopy stuff as the for mentioned loons does not make it a religion
I wonder how many of the atheist religion cultists are pastafarians. So it may not be allowed to be both. So then either one is an atheist or a pastafarian. I think most would choose pastafarian in here.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 10:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(December 9, 2018 at 9:22 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Huh? 'Next phase'? What? The hypothesis kind of hase to be falsifyable first as well.
How do you falsify a diety? Also... just positing a 'Designer'... doesn't actually do alot, other than kick the can a step further down the road.
I.E. If the (Hypothetical) Designer 'designed'... Uhm... Actually... At what level do you say your Designer is doing things? Just life? Just planetary systems? Just Universal systems? A combination of those? All of those? bits or none? Any-who, you're saying a Designer designed things so... how did your Designer come to be?
Never said 'Faked'. I posted 'Poor'' you can also use the word 'Biased'.
Not at work.
Based on the information in DNA, knowing I was designed, I believe in the Christian God of the Bible. I believe we are sinners in the hands of angry God. I am not perfect but I obey the Ten Commandments, plus the two which those Ten com from. Since I believe this, I believe God is in control of it all and created it all. I believe He is the primordial One that always existed and which everything else is of His creation. I believe He lives in an infinite space known as heaven.
Okay, lets try this again.
1) What aspects/attributs does your Designer have?
2) How did your Designer originate?
Trying to start slowly again.
Not at work.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 10:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
Based on the information in DNA, knowing I was designed, I believe in the Christian God of the Bible. I believe we are sinners in the hands of angry God. I am not perfect but I obey the Ten Commandments, plus the two which those Ten com from. Since I believe this, I believe God is in control of it all and created it all. I believe He is the primordial One that always existed and which everything else is of His creation. I believe He lives in an infinite space known as heaven.
Okay, lets try this again.
1) What aspects/attributs does your Designer have?
2) How did your Designer originate?
Trying to start slowly again.
Not at work.
He omnipotent, omniscient,..... He did not originate. He always was and always will be. He is the primordial One. The Primordial intelligence whom created this place.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 11:15 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 11:03 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Okay, lets try this again.
1) What aspects/attributs does your Designer have?
2) How did your Designer originate?
Trying to start slowly again.
Not at work.
He omnipotent, omniscient,..... He did not originate. He always was and always will be. He is the primordial One. The Primordial intelligence whom created this place.
Okay.
'It' has atributes that... don't seem to exist in reality.
Your Diety also gets to... ignore... facts about reality.
A side question. How do you ascertain the gender qualities of your deity?
Is there something concrete you can rest your knowledge of your diety on?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 11:36 pm
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Quote:It's already happening.
No their not
Quote:They are making predictions as well based on ID and they are successful from what I understand.
Every prediction of ID has been debunked
Quote:They had an example but I cannot remember it now.
I know the example it was already debunked
Quote:It has been a long time since I seen it.
I remember it was already debunked
ID is in the same place it was in 2011
Quote:I wonder how many of the atheist religion cultists
No such thing they are simply cultists
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm
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(December 9, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He omnipotent, omniscient,..... He did not originate. He always was and always will be. He is the primordial One. The Primordial intelligence whom created this place.
Okay.
'It' has atributes that... don't seem to exist in reality.
Your Diety also gets to... ignore... facts about reality.
A side question. How do you ascertain the gender qualities of your deity?
Is there something concrete you can rest your knowledge of your diety on?
He's of masculine gender. He does not ignore facts about reality, He can perform miracles, some of which may be by manipulating quantum mechanics.
King Yeshua is my diety.
(December 9, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:It's already happening.
No their not
Quote:They are making predictions as well based on ID and they are successful from what I understand.
Every prediction of ID has been debunked
Quote:They had an example but I cannot remember it now.
I know the example it was already debunked
Quote:It has been a long time since I seen it.
I remember it was already debunked
ID is in the same place it was in 2011
Quote:I wonder how many of the atheist religion cultists
No such thing they are simply cultists
I disagree on all. Also, they are atheist cultists though.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 10, 2018 at 12:18 am
(December 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
Okay.
'It' has atributes that... don't seem to exist in reality.
Your Diety also gets to... ignore... facts about reality.
A side question. How do you ascertain the gender qualities of your deity?
Is there something concrete you can rest your knowledge of your diety on?
He's of masculine gender. He does not ignore facts about reality, He can perform miracles, some of which may be by manipulating quantum mechanics.
King Yeshua is my diety.
(December 9, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Amarok Wrote: No their not
Every prediction of ID has been debunked
I know the example it was already debunked
I remember it was already debunked
ID is in the same place it was in 2011
No such thing they are simply cultists
I disagree on all. Also, they are atheist cultists though. Your wrong and those don't exist
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 10, 2018 at 12:25 am
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(December 9, 2018 at 9:57 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Arizona State University is a cult? Well that's interesting. You're making it very hard to take anything you say seriously.
If the group in question are attempting to impose concept or activities onto atheism then yes they are acting no differently then the "atheist church " which is a cult.
Quote:Specifically, it's a service by the Secular Freethought Society of Arizona State University.
Yes i know what it is and as i explain above
Quote:You could've just went to the YT page and looked.
I looked doesn't change my answer
So again you have failed to demonstrate atheism is a religion
Having some of the same rights as a religion does not make it a religion
Pointing to some loons imposing values and rituals that have nothing to do with atheism does not make it a religion
Appealing to journals while not actually providing a real argument does not make it a religion
Pointing to some loons at a university doing the same loopy stuff as the for mentioned loons does not make it a religion
They have their brand of atheism and you have yours. Nothing to make one preferable than the other, except they at least have some type of organization rather than a bunch of "nope" statements. Ten years from now it will all look different anyway. You have competing factions with it already. They start out as one group and break into smaller groups, then they grow from there. No different than what happens with any other religion. You're just in an earlier stage of the process. Plus the atheist groups are monetizing their factions which means it will happen all the more. I think the Christians and Muslims have you beat there though. You can typically become a member without paying a fee. Surprised the atheist churches are doing that, but hey, it's "business" I suppose.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 10, 2018 at 12:30 am
(December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Based on the information in DNA, knowing I was designed, I believe in the Christian God of the Bible. I believe we are sinners in the hands of angry God. I am not perfect but I obey the Ten Commandments, plus the two which those Ten com from. Since I believe this, I believe God is in control of it all and created it all. I believe He is the primordial One that always existed and which everything else is of His creation. I believe He lives in an infinite space known as heaven.
Quote:Design in DNA? Prove it!
Do you own slaves? Do you approve of slavery? You must, since Bible God sanctions slavery and even lays down rules for the acquiring and owning of slaves.
Any angry God? Indeed. Bible God is angry and evil. And he is SO insecure. He created imperfect beings and then punished them for behaving exactly the way he designed them to behave. More properly, he is a psychopathic tyrant. Why would anyone want to worship such a being?
Heaven? Where is Heaven?
He omnipotent, omniscient,..... He did not originate. He always was and always will be. He is the primordial One. The Primordial intelligence whom created this place.
Prove it!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 10, 2018 at 12:30 am
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(December 10, 2018 at 12:18 am)Amarok Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He's of masculine gender. He does not ignore facts about reality, He can perform miracles, some of which may be by manipulating quantum mechanics.
King Yeshua is my diety.
I disagree on all. Also, they are atheist cultists though. Your wrong and those don't exist
I disagree. You're wrong.
(December 10, 2018 at 12:30 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Based on the information in DNA, knowing I was designed, I believe in the Christian God of the Bible. I believe we are sinners in the hands of angry God. I am not perfect but I obey the Ten Commandments, plus the two which those Ten com from. Since I believe this, I believe God is in control of it all and created it all. I believe He is the primordial One that always existed and which everything else is of His creation. I believe He lives in an infinite space known as heaven.
He omnipotent, omniscient,..... He did not originate. He always was and always will be. He is the primordial One. The Primordial intelligence whom created this place.
Prove it!
How about a couple hundred Bible prophecies?
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