(December 11, 2018 at 7:28 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 7:22 pm)Amarok Wrote: We went through this yesterday.  Oh, I know though. You still believe Encyclopedia.com is making it up.



Re posting something I already addressed won't help you

Oh, you mean your posts that claim the encyclopedia, National Geographic, and some of the science journals are all making things up?

As I said I addressed both . Repeating this claim is doomed to fail.

(December 11, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 7:28 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Oh, you mean your posts that claim the encyclopedia, National Geographic, and some of the science journals are all making things up?

As I said I addressed both . Repeating this claim is  doomed to fail.

For who? Are you going to sue "science" for disagreeing with you?  How about the encyclopedia? *face palm*

Sometimes you just have to accept things in life because they're true.  I certainly don't always get my way, but I don't expect to either, and I'm fine with that.  Be content, be happy.

(December 11, 2018 at 7:38 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Amarok Wrote: As I said I addressed both . Repeating this claim is  doomed to fail.

For who? Are you going to sue "science" for disagreeing with you?  How about the encyclopedia? *face palm*

Sometimes you just have to accept things in life because they're true.  I certainly don't always get my way, but I don't expect to either, and I'm fine with that.  Be content, be happy.

Too bad it doesn't disagree with me some badly thought through articles do . As for the encyclopedia I already pointed out the problem with you using it for this silly conclusion you have . 

Yup and consider I accept what is true and it has nothing to do with want I couldn't be happier

(December 11, 2018 at 7:03 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: "Atheism" originated as a term used by "theists" to specifically identify those who didn't believe in the Judeo-Christian God. Later it became a loosely used derogatory term that could apply to anybody.  You could be a "theist" and still be an "atheist" because you were an opponent to someone, but it could be applied that way to just about anything, even for political reasons or just because you didn't like someone.  Today it is most commonly used as a term that applies to people who don't adhere to a belief in any God or gods.

This is incorrect.

"Atheism" originated as a term used by the Greeks specifically to describe Christians, because they did not believe in the Greek pantheon.

It's truly amazing three whole threads of repeating the same debunking 

A law the gives atheists religious protections does not make it a religion 

A couple of badly thought through articles trying to paint something that can't be as a religion

Using the encyclopedia to back a silly position . Then acting like it wasn't addressed.

Appealing to a silly fringe movement

Appealing to bunch of university quacks emulating religion that has nothing to do with atheism 

Claiming the Chinese were practicing Atheism lol 

Yup a truly devastating case 

That's because there's no gotcha if they can't categorize. They don't like not having everything compartmentalized. True story.
It's a mandatory requirement from their indoctrination so as to not upset the delicate mental stack of cards.
I can't blame them really.

(December 11, 2018 at 8:14 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 7:03 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: "Atheism" originated as a term used by "theists" to specifically identify those who didn't believe in the Judeo-Christian God. Later it became a loosely used derogatory term that could apply to anybody.  You could be a "theist" and still be an "atheist" because you were an opponent to someone, but it could be applied that way to just about anything, even for political reasons or just because you didn't like someone.  Today it is most commonly used as a term that applies to people who don't adhere to a belief in any God or gods.

This is incorrect.

"Atheism" originated as a term used by the Greeks specifically to describe Christians, because they did not believe in the Greek pantheon.

That is only partially correct.  It originated long before that.  You're talking about when it was adopted as a term to describe skeptics and what not.  The orthodox believers were the ones who established it etymologically.   But then again, that was also covered at the end of my statement.  In short, "atheist" was later broadened into "atheism"  See below:

The etymological root for the word atheism originated before the 5th century BCE from the ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)". In antiquity it had multiple uses as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society, those who were forsaken by the gods or those who had no commitment to belief in the gods.[/url] The term denoted a social category created by orthodox religionists into which those who did not share their religious beliefs were placed. The actual term atheism emerged first in the 16th century. With the spread of [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought]freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word atheist lived in the 18th century during the Age of Enlightenment. The French Revolution, noted for its "unprecedented atheism," witnessed the first major political movement in history to advocate for the supremacy of human reason. The French Revolution can be described as the first period where atheism became implemented politically.


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Seriously guys ur arguing among urselves. Just look at how many different theories, opinions and definitions everyone has presented.
Yas cant agree on it so im just going on to a new topic while u guys try decide for urselves.
I will just use the simple dictionary definitions. 
People trying to force me to be atheist because i only deal in knowledge... Goodness gracious fallacious.
And to think how many blind people are being pushed into atheism like this... Its deceiving to suggest u can't be agnostic without some kind of belief based label attached to it... Its a GIGANTIC fallacy and the more people try to define my position as atheist the more suspicious this all looks.

Just remember Im trying to have a discussion with 30 guys here. Some are just trolls, some posts are not worth responding to, others are fallacious. U may be sure of your definition and what u say but theres other opinions that differ from ur personal one.

Some people are already getting hostile over what? Nothing? LoL. I got some quotes mixed up and someone ran crying to the principal. 
I got a warning. A warning I got for accidentally saying he said this instead of she said this. Tssss.

Im being branded a theist without any evidence. Guilty without trial. And in the face of all this barbaric behavior and abuse I still remain civilized.
Im basically giving u guys a chance to explain yourselves to someone who only deals in knowledge.
After a handful of topics I will be able to know what the deal is here.

After round one with the anger  . 
The churches  . 
The hostile accusations  .
The varying opinions  . 
The confusion within the ranks  .
The dismissals  .
The personal attacks  .
The fallacious arguments  .

Its not a positive start for atheism here.

If you don't believe in a god, then you are an atheist by definition. We can talk about what kind of atheist you would be, but you would nevertheless still be an atheist if you lack the god-belief.

It's not that hard.

(December 11, 2018 at 6:22 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Huggy will be old and in a wheelchair with a nurse emptying his diapers and he'll still bring up Denmark to anyone and everyone he can.

Only when someone claims that atheists have all this logic and common sense, that shuts them up real quick (if they actually have common sense), otherwise some atheist (like Amarok) will double down and prove my point.


Besides Denmark is only relevant to this forum, I don't think atheists anywhere else are so deluded and married to the idea that the government of Denmark is secular.

See? Atheists have irrational beliefs, it's just that this particular belief can be unequivocally disproven.