(December 11, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:55 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: That is one of many definitions.  I don't assume one to be better than the other.  It's all contextual.

A-theism literally means not theism.

In his world people misusing a word makes that word a loosey goosey anything goes meaning

(December 11, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Grandizer Wrote: A-theism literally means not theism.

In his world people misusing a word makes that word a loosey gossey anything goes meaning

Yeah, let me get in line for learning vocabulary from you...you loosey GOSSEY thing you.

(December 11, 2018 at 10:34 pm)anjele Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Amarok Wrote: In his world people misusing a word makes that word a loosey gossey anything goes meaning

Yeah, let me get in line for learning vocabulary from you...you loosey GOSSEY thing you.

Understanding a term and occasionally failing at spelling it are two different things

(December 11, 2018 at 10:40 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 10:34 pm)anjele Wrote: Yeah, let me get in line for learning vocabulary from you...you loosey GOSSEY thing you.

Understanding a term and occasionally failing at spelling it are two different things

You mean like 'to bad' in post #131.

Learn to say what you mean...that requires using the correct words and spelling.

(December 11, 2018 at 10:09 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: But you did...

Do you understand that what you said is factually incorrect? I know you want Denmark's government to be secular so bad so you can make sense out of it being so happy, but i'm not going to let you ignore the definition of what secularism is.

I already explained how in all practical  terms it is a secular state . Religion virtually plays no role in it's everyday operations of the state nor are religious preferences or values  enforced on the population by law . Nor is the population very religious. The church is a powerless  vestigial non factor . So what part of any of that is incorrect ?. I know you want it to be wrong so you can pretend you have won some petty victory but to do so you must ignore the churches powerlessness in the country .

*emphasis mine*
The Church of Denmark is NOT powerless, the monarch is the head of the church, who holds reserve powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Denmark

Quote:According to the Danish Constitution, the Danish Monarch, as the de facto head of state, is the holder of executive and, jointly with the Folketing, legislative power. The Monarch has the ability to deny giving a bill royal assent as well as to choose and dismiss the Prime Minister or any Minister of Government with or without cause; however, no Monarch has exercised the latter powers since King Christian X dismissed the government on 28 March 1920, sparking the 1920 Easter Crisis

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Denmark

Quote:As supreme authority of the Church of Denmark, the monarch must be a member (article 6 of the Constitution). This applies to the royal princes and princesses as well, but does not apply to their spouses.

Is it likely for Denmark will have a religious fanatic as a monarch? probably not, but then again years ago it was highly unlikely that anyone thought that Trump could be president, so let's stop talking about how "powerless" the Church of Denmark is.

(December 11, 2018 at 10:50 pm)anjele Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 10:40 pm)Amarok Wrote: Understanding a term and occasionally failing at spelling it are two different things

You mean like 'to bad' in post #131.

Learn to say what you mean...that requires using the correct words and spelling.

Well it clearly has not stopped anyone from understanding

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Quote:*emphasis mine*
The Church of Denmark is NOT powerless, the monarch is the head of the church, who holds reserve powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Denmark

And how often does said monarch actually exercise any power in the day to day running of the country ? My guess would be he's a figurehead celebrity . So again my point remains .

Quote:Is it likely for Denmark will have a religious fanatic as a monarch? probably not, but then again years ago it was highly unlikely that anyone thought that Trump could be president, so let's stop talking about how "powerless" the Church of Denmark is.

Yeah that not gonna happen the church in Denmark is a vestigial institution doomed to fade . So again in all practical  terms  it's a secular state . 

Quote:According to the Danish Constitution, the Danish Monarch, as the de facto head of state, is the holder of executive and, jointly with the Folketing, legislative power. The Monarch has the ability to deny giving a bill royal assent as well as to choose and dismiss the Prime Minister or any Minister of Government with or without cause; however, no Monarch has exercised the latter powers since King Christian X dismissed the government on 28 March 1920, sparking the 1920 Easter Crisis

1920 very impressive. I wonder how the populous would respond if he tried that now . I imagine it wouldn't go well .

(December 11, 2018 at 9:18 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Seriously guys ur arguing among urselves. Just look at how many different theories, opinions and definitions everyone has presented.
Yas cant agree on it so im just going on to a new topic while u guys try decide for urselves.
I will just use the simple dictionary definitions. 
People trying to force me to be atheist because i only deal in knowledge... Goodness gracious fallacious.
And to think how many blind people are being pushed into atheism like this... Its deceiving to suggest u can't be agnostic without some kind of belief based label attached to it... Its a GIGANTIC fallacy and the more people try to define my position as atheist the more suspicious this all looks.

Just remember Im trying to have a discussion with 30 guys here. Some are just trolls, some posts are not worth responding to, others are fallacious. U may be sure of your definition and what u say but theres other opinions that differ from ur personal one.

Some people are already getting hostile over what? Nothing? LoL. I got some quotes mixed up and someone ran crying to the principal. 
I got a warning. A warning I got for accidentally saying he said this instead of she said this. Tssss.

Im being branded a theist without any evidence. Guilty without trial. And in the face of all this barbaric behavior and abuse I still remain civilized.
Im basically giving u guys a chance to explain yourselves to someone who only deals in knowledge.
After a handful of topics I will be able to know what the deal is here.

After round one with the anger  . 
The churches  . 
The hostile accusations  .
The varying opinions  . 
The confusion within the ranks  .
The dismissals  .
The personal attacks  .
The fallacious arguments  .

Its not a positive start for atheism here.

Your certainly are not dealing well with the knowledge we've given you. Are you always a victim?

I think we've found our new Little Rik everybody
I'm a sucker for nice colourful emoticons!

A-theism is one thing. A LACK of something.
A lack of one thing.
Just like a-symmetry. No symmetry.
Just like a-symptomatic. No symptoms.
A-theism. No belief in the gods.

It's really not that difficult.

(Your values really aren't "Christian". "Do unto others ..... " and "Love your neighbor as yourself" did not originate with Christianity.)

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(December 9, 2018 at 12:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 10:22 am)Rahn127 Wrote: Atheism is a response to a single question. That question is "Do you believe that a god exists ?"
If you answer Yes, you are a theist. If you answer No, you are an atheist.

That is the only thing that makes anyone an atheist.
Atheism contains no positive beliefs. It is not a belief. It is a rejection of a claim.

"Do you believe in bigfoot ?"
No. The answer of no would make me an abigfootist if such a term existed.
The non belief in bigfoot is not a belief.

Also I would say that all agnostics are also atheists. They don't have a belief in a god and as such, that makes them an atheist, by definition.
They may not like the label of atheist, but that is what they are.

What beliefs do you think atheism is based on ?

Atheism is undoubtedly a belief, don't delude yourself.

Belief in this case is referring to an ideology / idea.  Atheism is an ideology, ("ism" in 'atheism' means "a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice") hence why you guys are constantly trying to form tactics to try and actively counter theist arguments...

How many "abigfootist" forums have you joined?

How ignorant you are. 
I realize you are totally ignorant of history ... but since the 1950's when "atheistic Communism" was the name of the day, and Madelyn Murray O'Hare was demonized, 
humans have found their opinions of the deities derided, and equated with being evil. The fact they find value in an organization, is not really surprising.

IF you equate atheism with religion, you seem to have a VERY POOR opinion of religion, and what constitutes it. Is a golfing organization a religion ? Apparently you think so.

(December 11, 2018 at 9:56 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:55 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: That is one of many definitions.  I don't assume one to be better than the other.  It's all contextual.

A-theism literally means not theism.

There are many versions of atheism.  Which version are you referring to?  I agree your definition is accurate, but it doesn't work in every situation because all situations where that term is invoked are not the same, and some widely differ.