(December 11, 2018 at 9:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 6:22 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Huggy will be old and in a wheelchair with a nurse emptying his diapers and he'll still bring up Denmark to anyone and everyone he can.

Only when someone claims that atheists have all this logic and common sense, that shuts them up real quick (if they actually have common sense), otherwise some atheist (like Amarok) will double down and prove my point.

Lol to bad I never doubled down and you have never shut anyone up huggy except yourself

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Quote:That is only partially correct.  It originated long before that.  You're talking about when it was adopted as a term to describe skeptics and what not.  The orthodox believers were the ones who established it etymologically.   But then again, that was also covered at the end of my statement.  In short, "atheist" was later broadened into "atheism"  See below:

The etymological root for the word atheism originated before the 5th century BCE from the ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)". In antiquity it had multiple uses as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society, those who were forsaken by the gods or those who had no commitment to belief in the gods.[/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought], skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word atheist lived in the 18th century during the Age of Enlightenment. The French Revolution, noted for its "unprecedented atheism," witnessed the first major political movement in history to advocate for the supremacy of human . The French Revolution can be described as the first period where atheism became implemented politically.


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Still twisting in the wind I see

(December 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:30 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Only when someone claims that atheists have all this logic and common sense, that shuts them up real quick (if they actually have common sense), otherwise some atheist (like Amarok) will double down and prove my point.

Lol to bad I never doubled down and you have never shut anyone up huggy except yourself

But you did...

(December 11, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 11:56 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You weren't serious were you? If your were then please explain why there is a thread with atheists trying to argue that Denmark's government is secular?

Because in practice it is

Do you understand that what you said is factually incorrect? I know you want Denmark's government to be secular so bad so you can make sense out of it being so happy, but i'm not going to let you ignore the definition of what secularism is.

(December 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Grandizer Wrote: If you don't believe in a god, then you are an atheist by definition. We can talk about what kind of atheist you would be, but you would nevertheless still be an atheist if you lack the god-belief.

It's not that hard.

That is one of many definitions.  I don't assume one to be better than the other.  It's all contextual.

(December 11, 2018 at 9:55 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Grandizer Wrote: If you don't believe in a god, then you are an atheist by definition. We can talk about what kind of atheist you would be, but you would nevertheless still be an atheist if you lack the god-belief.

It's not that hard.

That is one of many definitions.  I don't assume one to be better than the other.  It's all contextual.

A-theism literally means not theism.

(December 11, 2018 at 9:55 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Grandizer Wrote: If you don't believe in a god, then you are an atheist by definition. We can talk about what kind of atheist you would be, but you would nevertheless still be an atheist if you lack the god-belief.

It's not that hard.

That is one of many definitions.  I don't assume one to be better than the other.  It's all contextual.

And you continue to be wrong

(December 11, 2018 at 6:35 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Yep, the old Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. Where would Huggy be without it

Please...

You made an assertion,

(December 11, 2018 at 6:01 am)ignoramus Wrote: Huggy thinks we all belong to a hive mind... Yeah, because we all exercise the same logical common sense.

*emphasis mine*


and I submitted evidence against your assertion. How did disproving claims become fallacious all of a sudden?

(December 11, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 9:33 pm)Amarok Wrote: Lol to bad I never doubled down and you have never shut anyone up huggy except yourself

But you did...

(December 11, 2018 at 12:04 pm)Amarok Wrote: Because in practice it is

Do you understand that what you said is factually incorrect? I know you want Denmark's government to be secular so bad so you can make sense out of it being so happy, but i'm not going to let you ignore the definition of what secularism is.

I already explained how in all practical  terms it is a secular state . Religion virtually plays no role in it's everyday operations of the state nor are religious preferences or values  enforced on the population by law . Nor is the population very religious. The church is a powerless  vestigial non factor . So what part of any of that is incorrect ?. I know you want it to be wrong so you can pretend you have won some petty victory but to do so you must ignore the churches powerlessness in the country .

So agnosto is a dick as well as a moron. Nothing more to see here folks. Engaging the ignore cloaking device now.

(December 11, 2018 at 8:47 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 11, 2018 at 8:14 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: This is incorrect.

"Atheism" originated as a term used by the Greeks specifically to describe Christians, because they did not believe in the Greek pantheon.

That is only partially correct.  It originated long before that.  You're talking about when it was adopted as a term to describe skeptics and what not.  The orthodox believers were the ones who established it etymologically.   But then again, that was also covered at the end of my statement.  In short, "atheist" was later broadened into "atheism"  See below:

The etymological root for the word atheism originated before the 5th century BCE from the ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)". In antiquity it had multiple uses as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society, those who were forsaken by the gods or those who had no commitment to belief in the gods.[/url] The term denoted a social category created by orthodox religionists into which those who did not share their religious beliefs were placed. The actual term atheism emerged first in the 16th century. With the spread of [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought]freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves using the word atheist lived in the 18th century during the Age of Enlightenment. The French Revolution, noted for its "unprecedented atheism," witnessed the first major political movement in history to advocate for the supremacy of human reason. The French Revolution can be described as the first period where atheism became implemented politically.


From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Why are you so hung-up on this?  What does it matter?  If someone doesn’t believe in god, then they don’t believe in god.  ???

Hey Mark! What happened to sympathizing with theists!
You haven't gone rogue on us, have you?