WoW... The hate that resinates from the non believers is cold.
Some justify the fact this guy forgives his family but attacks the rest.
Some are very insecure with having their world view challenged and become emotional.
Some seem unable to construct an argument and so resort to ad hominem fallacy.

And some, despite having plenty to say, didn't even watch the video.
The fallacious irrationality of some atheists is becoming clearer.

Here are some links to those thinking about belief/feelings
https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/feeling...e-suspect/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...-believing
https://trans4mind.com/counterpoint/inde...rd31.shtml





Take a look angry atheists. U don't want to be labelled yet u try to put labels on myself. Look at this chart. One can be Agnostic without holding any beliefs/feelings
Besides do i really want to be part of a non-belief, for lack of a better term, who blindly attacks ordinary people with beliefs. No thanks.

Everena is that you?

Anyhow, if you want to be called just an agnostic, be my guest. Literally, however, you would be a non-theist (assuming you're being honest about your non-theist).

Also note you come off as an angry agnostic, so if you don't like the label "atheist" even though the term is inclusive of agnostics as well, then allow me to call you an angry agnostic because that's what you are.

(December 12, 2018 at 8:14 pm)Agnostico Wrote: WoW... The hate that resinates from the non believers is cold.
Some justify the fact this guy forgives his family but attacks the rest.
Some are very insecure with having their world view challenged and become emotional.
Some seem unable to construct an argument and so resort to ad hominem fallacy.

And some, despite having plenty to say, didn't even watch the video.
The fallacious irrationality of some atheists is becoming clearer.

Here are some links to those thinking about belief/feelings
https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/feeling...e-suspect/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/...-believing
https://trans4mind.com/counterpoint/inde...rd31.shtml





Take a look angry atheists. U don't want to be labelled yet u try to put labels on myself. Look at this chart. One can be Agnostic without holding any beliefs/feelings
Besides do i really want to be part of a non-belief, for lack of a better term, who blindly attacks ordinary people with beliefs. No thanks.

Wow you clearly do not have any interest in real discussion.

I'm actually interested (because your 'religious views' says "agnostic with Christian values") could you list your so-called "Christian values" please? Like maybe 5 or 10 of them? I bet they are values that are not controversial among moral realists... in which case... they aren't "Christian" values anyway. They are simply moral values.

Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

(December 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

No, dude. Reality = something we are trying to understand. Ignoring mothafuckas who don't understand it/can't understand it............. is merely the first step. Especially when those mothafuckas claim to be an authority on it.

(December 12, 2018 at 8:55 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(December 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

No, dude. Reality = something we are trying to understand. Ignoring mothafuckas who don't understand it/can't understand it............. is merely the first step. Especially when those mothafuckas claim to be an authority on it.

It's the Internet.  How many people do you expect to be an authority on anything?  What one person might believe is a doctor could very well be a 13-year-old with some free time using his mommy's iPad.  You never know.

(December 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

What an amazing comment...
So atheists complaining about theists beliefs in God doesn't valdidate ur own belief
U just invalidated the whole atheist view.

So firstly u admit atheism to be a belief despite the objections of some.
Secondly as iv already stated I don't rate beliefs. Their nothing but a hinderance stirred up by feelings and emotion instead of logic.
Thirdly the atheist position is based on complaining about religious gods and so by ur own definition invalidates the atheist position as false.

Hehehehe wat r u guys doing to urselves? Just step back and take a look at the mental gymnastics u are performing
So in a discussion with me ur not an atheist because im not asserting a God
The atheist mask only comes on when talking to religious people. Its such a weak position. I find it worthless for any use than to argue theists

I find it funny that people are resorting to calling me angry. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Who has used foul language? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has been abusive? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has resorted to slander? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has their feathers ruffled? Not me. Multiple atheists
Perhaps u sense some of my frustration at atheists trying to tell me the agnostic position doesn't exist
Or trying to equate my knowledge based position to the atheists belief based position

So whats with the anti religious propaganda anyway? Its fairly heavy for a group of people who claim to have no belief
Is religion all that bad? Does it influence ur life at all? So where is the beef?

(December 12, 2018 at 11:20 pm)Agnostico Wrote:

(December 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

What an amazing comment...
So atheists complaining about theists beliefs in God doesn't valdidate ur own belief
U just invalidated the whole atheist view.

So firstly u admit atheism to be a belief despite the objections of some.
Secondly as iv already stated I don't rate beliefs. Their nothing but a hinderance stirred up by feelings and emotion instead of logic.
Thirdly the atheist position is based on complaining about religious gods and so by ur own definition invalidates the atheist position as false.

Fallacy fallacy.

(December 12, 2018 at 11:20 pm)Agnostico Wrote:

(December 12, 2018 at 8:48 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Reality = Complaining about someone else's belief doesn't validate your own belief.

What an amazing comment...
So atheists complaining about theists beliefs in God doesn't valdidate ur own belief
U just invalidated the whole atheist view.

So firstly u admit atheism to be a belief despite the objections of some.
Secondly as iv already stated I don't rate beliefs. Their nothing but a hinderance stirred up by feelings and emotion instead of logic.
Thirdly the atheist position is based on complaining about religious gods and so by ur own definition invalidates the atheist position as false.

Hehehehe wat r u guys doing to urselves? Just step back and take a look at the mental gymnastics u are performing
So in a discussion with me ur not an atheist because im not asserting a God
The atheist mask only comes on when talking to religious people. Its such a weak position. I find it worthless for any use than to argue theists

I find it funny that people are resorting to calling me angry. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Who has used foul language? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has been abusive? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has resorted to slander? Not me. Multiple atheists
Who has their feathers ruffled? Not me. Multiple atheists
Perhaps u sense some of my frustration at atheists trying to tell me the agnostic position doesn't exist
Or trying to equate my knowledge based position to the atheists belief based position

So whats with the anti religious propaganda anyway? Its fairly heavy for a group of people who claim to have no belief
Is religion all that bad? Does it influence ur life at all? So where is the beef?

I don't have a particular bias that must be applied to atheists and theist as individuals and as they make claims.  What I do have a bias towards is when those claims can't be validated through study within the natural world (or universe) or they try to suggest that super natural phenomena can be studied within natural parameters.  For example, believing in vampires that turn into bats, ghouls, goblins, or whatever they come up with.  I have no problem with someone asserting that it's possible for super natural beings to exist, but if something is super natural, you couldn't likely control it through natural parameters, and even if you could, you couldn't know which ones it could be subject to.  For example, saying you're going to study a super natural vampire in a closed room, when the vampire could potentially just walk through a wall.  No problem with someone wanting to believe in a God, or some form of "gods" existing that have an attributed value to them by a population.  You can really even believe in the "Dracula" creature, but I wouldn't go out of my way to assert it intentionally without proof.

In reality, we all exist with certain biases.  Best to just make the best of it and not assume that everybody has to agree with your view, but rather focus on like-minded endeavors as to advance human relationships and scientific study.