(December 18, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Divinity Wrote: The Decline of Evangelicals is largely due to their lack of compassion for anyone but themselves.

Proof?

(December 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 18, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Divinity Wrote: The Decline of Evangelicals is largely due to their lack of compassion for anyone but themselves.

Proof?

Are you fucking serious?

(December 18, 2018 at 1:45 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(December 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Proof?

Are you fucking serious?

Yep. No proof?

(December 18, 2018 at 10:34 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The increased Evangelical participation in politics carried the seeds of its eventual decline. When I was a Pentecostal kid, politics was widely viewed as too 'worldly' for someone truly concerned about saving souls to get too mixed up in, and our leaders are appointed by God anyway, who are we to intervene in God's plans? Things literally can't turn out any other way than what God ordained.

The inevitable result is that evangelicals have corrupted politics and politics has corrupted evangelicals. The hypocrisy required to endorse Trump because he will give you the judges you want is not lost on the (mainly) youth leaving the church. The median age of Evangelicals went from 46 in 2007 to 49 in 2014. The median age for Americans in 2017 was 38, up from 37.2 in 2010.

(December 18, 2018 at 10:21 am)no one Wrote: All part of satan's evil plot to overthrow the kingdom of heaven.

Ha!  Like all of those fossils that the Devil and his (or, its) minions planted.

(December 18, 2018 at 12:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

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(December 18, 2018 at 12:13 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: If somebody caused the foreign policy of the U.S to be so hostile and vicious towards Muslims in the Middle East, it is the Evangelical wing in the U.S .

Aside from injecting zionism with huge doses in American foreign policy -since supporting Israel is supporting the land where Christ would return to from heaven-; Evangelicals also made it much much harder for Muslims to communicate with the Christian white American.

They -along with backward extreme Islamists- created a huge gap between your average American -no; I mean white Christian- and Muslims.

I'm not familiar with any other gaps they caused between white Americans and foreigners, but I can bet that if you saw a single crack in the wall, there so many others.

They will die out, the only thing that is keeping them alive is their importance as strategic pawns; they worth gold when a war like the Iraq war of 2003 breaks out, but soon -as with most pawns- they die from old age.

How about the better option for all humans to consider? There is no god, religions are all human inventions. 

As much as every religion worldwide claims to have the secrets to peace, it causes more conflict than it brings peace. Every nation in the world has hospitals and prisons, and that tells me everything I need to know about our species morality. Our morality is in us, not old writings or holy people, but our evolution.

It became very very evident that violence and wars in the world are caused by psychological problems and greed for resources.

The Kashoggi case is one of so many; they didn't cut the man for a religious purpose; but  they cut him because the criminal (MBS) has psychological issue along with most of his family.

Vlad the impaler wasn't motivated by religion; he was motivated by psychological issues too.4
Hitler wasn't motivated by religion, he was motivated by insane dreams to turn Germany into "a super, almost-heavenly power".

Religion is so insignificant in the crimes we see. I should remind you Brian that WW2 and WW1 were carried out because of reasons unrelated to religion.

The keys of destruction for our specie is held by the Kuffar -the people who rejected God-; not by the religious. Who else owns the ability to launch armageddon today but the Kafir leaders of the world? in any big fight between them, a bomb would be dropped and that's it: WOOSH.. I don't see religion causing it.
Religion is a mere toy in the hands of secular powers today.

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In other words; if a man came shouting "Allahu Akbar!!" and wanted to butcher me, I will try to check on his psychological state, ask him when was the last time he had sex, then ask him how his wallet is doing.

Works like charm.

When people get stacked atop of each other in slums, have no money to even have sex, have no democracy, have dictator rulers, and atop of that get banned from traveling outside to escape the hell they are living in, they tend to get a little crazy.
A smart dictator would use "religion" to silence people. When the people get horny he'll tell them that sex is "Haram". When they speak about democracy he'll tell them that it is a "trait of the kuffar". When they want to travel outside the Kuffar's immigration policies would stop them or the dictator's soldiers at the borders. Ironically the dictator himself and his whole family can travel at will !!

Come ask me where ISIS came from; Brian.

Religion (including, Islam) does beget violence:



Wikipedia -- Early Muslim Conquests

It's possible for psychological reasons and religion to both be causes of violence, Atlass. Once again you're functioning as an apologist for violence.

(December 18, 2018 at 10:34 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The increased Evangelical participation in politics carried the seeds of its eventual decline. When I was a Pentecostal kid, politics was widely viewed as too 'worldly' for someone truly concerned about saving souls to get too mixed up in, and our leaders are appointed by God anyway, who are we to intervene in God's plans? Things literally can't turn out any other way than what God ordained.

The inevitable result is that evangelicals have corrupted politics and politics has corrupted evangelicals. The hypocrisy required to endorse Trump because he will give you the judges you want is not lost on the (mainly) youth leaving the church. The median age of Evangelicals went from 46 in 2007 to 49 in 2014. The median age for Americans in 2017 was 38, up from 37.2 in 2010.

Prior to Jerry Fartwell, and the "moral majority" back in the 60s and 70s whom went onto get evangelicals to hijack Reagan and the GOP, most religious people made more of an effort to keep religion and politics separate.

(December 19, 2018 at 11:40 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 18, 2018 at 10:34 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The increased Evangelical participation in politics carried the seeds of its eventual decline. When I was a Pentecostal kid, politics was widely viewed as too 'worldly' for someone truly concerned about saving souls to get too mixed up in, and our leaders are appointed by God anyway, who are we to intervene in God's plans? Things literally can't turn out any other way than what God ordained.

The inevitable result is that evangelicals have corrupted politics and politics has corrupted evangelicals. The hypocrisy required to endorse Trump because he will give you the judges you want is not lost on the (mainly) youth leaving the church. The median age of Evangelicals went from 46 in 2007 to 49 in 2014. The median age for Americans in 2017 was 38, up from 37.2 in 2010.

Prior to Jerry Fartwell, and the "moral majority" back in the 60s and 70s whom went onto get evangelicals to hijack Reagan and the GOP, most religious people made more of an effort to keep religion and politics separate.

Proof?