Whats wrong guys. Its hard to deal with facts sometimes true.
Nuff said. I wait for B37 and only to him i speak
Meanwhile... Check urselves Gae Bolga and Jörmungandr


When was the last time u guys changed a part of ur theory? Maybe after I hear from B37.


How many times have u changed ur theory? Catholic to atheist were u guys are to agnostic now.

Im skeptical of everyone but u know who is the worse... Me i must be skeptical of myself. Always trying to falsify parts of my theory.
The belief question took so much time out of my life. But it has no direct impact to ur existance here. Its a waste of time and thought.
Anyway im gone after I get to B37. U guys take care

(December 18, 2018 at 3:39 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Whats wrong guys. Its hard to deal with facts sometimes true.
Nuff said. I wait for B37 and only to him i speak
Meanwhile... Check urselves Gae Bolga and Jörmungandr


When was the last time u guys changed a part of ur theory? Maybe after I hear from B37.


How many times have u changed ur theory? Catholic to atheist were u guys are to agnostic now.

Im skeptical of everyone but u know who is the worse... Me i must be skeptical of myself. Always trying to falsify parts of my theory.
The belief question took so much time out of my life. But it has no direct impact to ur existance here. Its a waste of time and thought.
Anyway im gone after I get to B37. U guys take care

Been a while since I had to post this one, but:



What on earth is your actual question?  And what theory are you talking about?  And if you're only here to talk with one person, then take it to PMs.

So......not about our "theory of humans"...but whether we believed in a god?

I've always been an atheist.

(December 18, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Look at urself. Stop avoiding the question with fallacies.
A thought experiment for oneself. The open minded will answer. Not the dogmatic will not

When was the last time u guys changed a part of ur theory?

How many times have u changed ur theory?

Not sure this is meant for me, but I'll respond.

I will assume the "theory" you are talking about is belief/disbelief in gods.

That's a pretty bad use of the word "theory", even in the most colloquial terms.

Quote:When was the last time u guys changed a part of ur theory?

I was a believer for decades, until I came to the conclusion that I never applied skepticism and rational thinking to my god beliefs. As soon as I did, I discovered they just did not hold up to scrutiny. It was then that my god beliefs faded.

That was the last time my "theory" changed.

Quote:How many times have u changed ur theory?

Since the claim that gods exist has still not met their burden of proof, my "theory" has not changed since it changed the first time.

Why should it? No theist has ever provided a case for god claims that have met their burden of proof, to convince me.

As soon as theists are able to provide demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, and valid and sound logic to support their claims that gods exist, I will believe. 1000's of years and counting, and still nothing.

Until they do, I have zero justification to believe gods exist.

Which theory of mine are you talking about?  I tend to view all moral theories with a degree of suspicion.  As to when the last time I changed my theory was, that would have been relatively recently, as up until several months ago I was a strong proponent of evolved psychology as an explanation for morals.  Now I'm occupying a more moderate position on moral realism akin to a shift from hard determinism to compatibilism in free will theory.  What are you talking about?

Lol, if we're still discussing moral theories, the last huge change in mine was within my time here at af, from relativism with a heavy dose of error theory to objectivism with a heavy dose of error theory.

This, incited by a single sentence remark from a forum member followed up by a mound of reading in sociology and archaeology, with a sprinkling of moore, kant, hume, and kagan. The latter providing the semantics with which to address complicated moral considerations in a greater specificity than I was previously able.

(December 18, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Look at urself. Stop avoiding the question with fallacies.
A thought experiment for oneself. The open minded will answer. Not the dogmatic will not

When was the last time u guys changed a part of ur theory?

How many times have u changed ur theory?

 Hello!

I don't think in "Theories".

I have beliefs and ideas. Some good, some bad and I'm prerry much always thinking about them and evaluating them.

How many times have I changed my many beliefs and/or ideas?

Quite a few over quite some time.

Not at work.

(December 19, 2018 at 1:25 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:  Hello!

I don't think in "Theories".

I have beliefs and ideas.

Not at work.

I went through all the statements and found this one to be very insighful into the atheist mind
First thing is "I don't think" regardless what u posit after that its a damning statement
Second "in theories"

There are quite a few definitions of theory. Scientific, philisophical and iv picked this one as it mirrors the way I use the term
"an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action"

I would suggest dissmissing ur beliefs. They come from a place of feelings and emotion. Not goot for logical thinking
I would encourge u to use ur ideas, ur thoughts. They are much more rational and is a much better way of reching conclusions. They are theories in my book

I predicted no one would give straight answers.
Ive made so many falsifiable predicions on the reactions and comments from the atheists and they've all been true.
According to Karl Popper my impression of atheists still stands true

Hehehehe since learning about Karl Popper his slowly over time made it into my top 5 scientis.
And then slowly again his now beeing promoted into my top 3. I love his thought proces and methodology

Anyhow...

Dogma

Ive got 3 theories that explain things from 200,000 BC to the begining of written history. I have them ranked from most to least probable
Their always changing. Yet people will laugh at me from these dogmatic position

Iv got some lines that look corny, sound weird but hey, they work for me

"Dogmatic"
"a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true"
"Illmatic"
"principles or set of priciples which are formed through facts and are in constant motion through falsification"

Master Yoda
"Fear, anger aggession. The path to the darkside are they"    LoL honestly guys try applying this to anything. Ul be surprised

I know people will laugh and troll but it worries me not. I know who im dealing with now

(December 20, 2018 at 7:46 am)Agnostico Wrote:

(December 19, 2018 at 1:25 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:  Hello!

I don't think in "Theories".

I have beliefs and ideas.

Not at work.

I went through all the statements and found this one to be very insighful into the atheist mind
First thing is "I don't think" regardless what u posit after that its a damning statement
Second "in theories"

There are quite a few definitions of theory. Scientific, philisophical and iv picked this one as it mirrors the way I use the term
"an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action"

I would suggest dissmissing ur beliefs. They come from a place of feelings and emotion. Not goot for logical thinking
I would encourge u to use ur ideas, ur thoughts. They are much more rational and is a much better way of reching conclusions. They are theories in my book

I predicted no one would give straight answers.
Ive made so many falsifiable predicions on the reactions and comments from the atheists and they've all been true.
According to Karl Popper my impression of atheists still stands true

Hehehehe since learning about Karl Popper his slowly over time made it into my top 5 scientis.
And then slowly again his now beeing promoted into my top 3. I love his thought proces and methodology

Anyhow...

Dogma

Ive got 3 theories that explain things from 200,000 BC to the begining of written history. I have them ranked from most to least probable
Their always changing. Yet people will laugh at me from these dogmatic position

Iv got some lines that look corny, sound weird but hey, they work for me

"Dogmatic"
"a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true"
"Illmatic"
"principles or set of priciples which are formed through facts and are in constant motion through falsification"

Master Yoda
"Fear, anger aggession. The path to the darkside are they"    LoL honestly guys try applying this to anything. Ul be surprised

I know people will laugh and troll but it worries me not. I know who im dealing with now

Do you have a "theory" of Thor being the cause of lightening? No? I bet you rightfully accept humans made that up right? How much time do you spend every day trying to debunk that old mythology?

I know there are good people worldwide. I only disagree as to where they think our species morality is coming from. When you are a kid it is easy for parents to sell you the mythology of Santa, but most kids grow out of that over time. 

I value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but no, there is no such thing as a magic baby with super powers. I value the likes of Malala, but her courage to fight male oppression isn't because of Allah. I value the likes of Ann Frank who said "In spite of everything" she thought humans were good at heart, meaning if it were not for the bad leaders, we could get along. I love those who have that empathy in my species. But that empathy is in our species, not old writings.

Do you really know whom you are dealing with? Judging from your responses it seems you had a lot of misconceptions coming in. Then like many, when you didn't get the responses you wanted, it jarred you. 

Ok, so let me clear some of this up for you.

1. We are not a gang.

2. We are not a political party.

3. We are not a religion.

4. We do not love dictators.

5. We will not barbecue your kittens or rape your women.

6. We don't agree on all things all the time.

7. We are just as diverse and come from all nations and come in all skin tones.

8. ^^^^^^^ Keep re reading this list until it sinks in.

(December 20, 2018 at 8:05 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 20, 2018 at 7:46 am)Agnostico Wrote: I went through all the statements and found this one to be very insighful into the atheist mind
First thing is "I don't think" regardless what u posit after that its a damning statement
Second "in theories"

There are quite a few definitions of theory. Scientific, philisophical and iv picked this one as it mirrors the way I use the term
"an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action"

I would suggest dissmissing ur beliefs. They come from a place of feelings and emotion. Not goot for logical thinking
I would encourge u to use ur ideas, ur thoughts. They are much more rational and is a much better way of reching conclusions. They are theories in my book

I predicted no one would give straight answers.
Ive made so many falsifiable predicions on the reactions and comments from the atheists and they've all been true.
According to Karl Popper my impression of atheists still stands true

Hehehehe since learning about Karl Popper his slowly over time made it into my top 5 scientis.
And then slowly again his now beeing promoted into my top 3. I love his thought proces and methodology

Anyhow...

Dogma

Ive got 3 theories that explain things from 200,000 BC to the begining of written history. I have them ranked from most to least probable
Their always changing. Yet people will laugh at me from these dogmatic position

Iv got some lines that look corny, sound weird but hey, they work for me

"Dogmatic"
"a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true"
"Illmatic"
"principles or set of priciples which are formed through facts and are in constant motion through falsification"

Master Yoda
"Fear, anger aggession. The path to the darkside are they"    LoL honestly guys try applying this to anything. Ul be surprised

I know people will laugh and troll but it worries me not. I know who im dealing with now

Do you have a "theory" of Thor being the cause of lightening? No? I bet you rightfully accept humans made that up right? How much time do you spend every day trying to debunk that old mythology?

I know there are good people worldwide. I only disagree as to where they think our species morality is coming from. When you are a kid it is easy for parents to sell you the mythology of Santa, but most kids grow out of that over time. 

I value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but no, there is no such thing as a magic baby with super powers. I value the likes of Malala, but her courage to fight male oppression isn't because of Allah. I value the likes of Ann Frank who said "In spite of everything" she thought humans were good at heart, meaning if it were not for the bad leaders, we could get along. I love those who have that empathy in my species. But that empathy is in our species, not old writings.

Do you really know whom you are dealing with? Judging from your responses it seems you had a lot of misconceptions coming in. Then like many, when you didn't get the responses you wanted, it jarred you. 

Ok, so let me clear some of this up for you.

1. We are not a gang.

2. We are not a political party.

3. We are not a religion.

4. We do not love dictators.

5. We will not barbecue your kittens or rape your women.

6. We don't agree on all things all the time.

7. We are just as diverse and come from all nations and come in all skin tones.

8. ^^^^^^^ Keep re reading this list until it sinks in.

Ur the guy that has my Gibbon theory. B37. I asked u some question. No asnwer. Why? I didn't aim this post at u. Everyone else but u it was for
Extremely dissapointed. I though from reading ur theory u would be open to discussion. But uv got 10 commandments. Or 8

Did u read my response to that? How your theory is one I have based on the Gibbon monkey society? Seems not. Very dissapointed.
I thought I had a person to have a logical conversation with
I was very open to ur theory. Its one of mine. But ur dogma somehow still rejects my thought of open theories

Pessimisim is healthy but it seems people are trying to read between the lines instead of taking words off face value. Just an observation


Oh well I never completed my objective of understanding where atheist hate comes from. Might try another forum.
Differnet approach. Come clean with my whole agnostic christian morals theory. And be selesctive to only respond to reason

A glimmer of hope that B37 missed my responses, sees them now  and comes back with an open mind knowing more about where im coming from.
Its a tiny light but