(December 24, 2018 at 7:56 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(December 24, 2018 at 5:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not sure.  It was pretty cool.

Yeah, and I'm King Isildur.

I'm Shelob of Ungoliant.  Want to come over for dinner?  Nom! Nom!

Quote:I provided accurate stats a number of times in this thread.

You provided doo doo 

Quote:  Darwin is heavily followed in the scientific community

Darwin isn't followed by anyone evolution is accepted because it's true 

Quote:despite the gaping holes in his theory related to macro-evolution and common ancestry and the lack of origins

There are no significant gaps and macro evolution despite your compartmentalization is a fact of biology and the origins of life don't concern evolution and we are working on it nor is it a challenge to the theory 

Quote:We didn't fail at anything.

You failed at everything

Quote:El-ohim.  It's the name associated with God as being the Creator.
Sometimes you can have something similar in multiple cultures and it means the same thing to them respectively.

Anyway, Merry Christmas. 

Nope. 

Yahweh came from the Babylonian pantheon. 
El Elyon was the chief Babylonian deity. Yahweh was one of his many sons. 
The Elohim was the council of gods, (which is why the word in Genesis is translated "us" as in "Let *us* make man in our image" ... it's plural.

Countless writings over the centuries have discussed this "us" and what it means.
Read "The Origins of Satan" ... Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton
It's not even close to being a question.

Take Comparative Mythology 101.
Many things in Genesis came from Babylon. The Judean priests wrote it in Exile, in Babylon.
Ezra brought it back with him, as described in Nehemiah.

Merry Christmas.

(December 24, 2018 at 8:37 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:El-ohim.  It's the name associated with God as being the Creator.
Sometimes you can have something similar in multiple cultures and it means the same thing to them respectively.

Anyway, Merry Christmas. 

Nope. 

Yahweh came from the Babylonian pantheon. 
El Elyon was the chief Babylonian deity. Yahweh was one of his many sons. 
The Elohim was the council of gods, (which is why the word in Genesis is translated "us" as in "Let *us* make man in our image" ... it's plural.

Countless writings over the centuries have discussed this "us" and what it means.  
Read "The Origins of Satan" ... Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton
It's not even close to being a question.

Take Comparative Mythology 101.
Many things in Genesis came from Babylon. The Judean priests wrote it in Exile, in Babylon.
Ezra brought it back with him, as described in Nehemiah.

Merry Christmas.

Tis your opinion dude.  When you have a beginning to something, nothing else comes before it in its context.  But to be fair, we would just go around in circles over which is first, so happy to agree to disagree.

Quote:Nope. 

Yahweh came from the Babylonian pantheon. 
El Elyon was the chief Babylonian deity. Yahweh was one of his many sons. 
The Elohim was the council of gods, (which is why the word in Genesis is translated "us" as in "Let *us* make man in our image" ... it's plural.

Countless writings over the centuries have discussed this "us" and what it means.  
Read "The Origins of Satan" ... Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton
It's not even close to being a question.

Take Comparative Mythology 101.
Many things in Genesis came from Babylon. The Judean priests wrote it in Exile, in Babylon.
Ezra brought it back with him, as described in Nehemiah.

Merry Christmas.

Quote:Tis your opinion dude.  When you have a beginning to something, nothing else comes before it in its context.  But to be fair, we would just go around in circles over which is first, so happy to agree to disagree.

No actually it's supported by countless scholars, including the one cited here. 
Obviously you have no background in the subject. 
Your "beginning" (not-even) argument is hilarious. It's the same as saying we have to accept the first Sherlock Holmes, is the first time London is ever mentioned. LOL. 
Total fail. The use of syncretic material in ancient Near Eastern literature is a well-known fact. 
Even most people on the street have heard the flood had a precursor in the Epic of Gilgamesh. 
To be fair, you are not competent to even BEGIN to discuss the subject. 

Merry Christmas.

(December 24, 2018 at 9:16 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Nope. 

Yahweh came from the Babylonian pantheon. 
El Elyon was the chief Babylonian deity. Yahweh was one of his many sons. 
The Elohim was the council of gods, (which is why the word in Genesis is translated "us" as in "Let *us* make man in our image" ... it's plural.

Countless writings over the centuries have discussed this "us" and what it means.  
Read "The Origins of Satan" ... Dr. Elaine Pagels, Princeton
It's not even close to being a question.

Take Comparative Mythology 101.
Many things in Genesis came from Babylon. The Judean priests wrote it in Exile, in Babylon.
Ezra brought it back with him, as described in Nehemiah.

Merry Christmas.

Quote:Tis your opinion dude.  When you have a beginning to something, nothing else comes before it in its context.  But to be fair, we would just go around in circles over which is first, so happy to agree to disagree.

No actually it's supported by countless scholars, including the one cited here. 
Obviously you have no background in the subject. 
Your "beginning" (not-even) argument is hilarious. It's the same as saying we have to accept the first Sherlock Holmes, is the first time London is ever mentioned. LOL. 
Total fail. The use of syncretic material in ancient Near eastern literature is a well-known fact. 
Even most people on the street have heard the flood had a precursor in the Epic of Gilgamesh. 
To be fair, you are not competent to even BEGIN to discuss the subject. 

Merry Christmas.

Actually I do have a background in it.  But honestly, it will just go round-n-round.  If you don't feel that it will, then I'm happy to discuss it with you independently and we can exchange sources.

If you want to challenge my credentials, then I'll be glad to lay them out before an unbiased public panel with you present, and if you can negate them, then I'll buy you a pony.  If not, sorry about your luck.  Still, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

If anyone would like to see my credentials.... Oh never mind.

(December 24, 2018 at 9:27 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: If anyone would like to see my credentials.... Oh never mind.

Well I'm about to attempt to make two yogurt pies for Christmas.  Admittedly, I could probably be considered incompetent with it, but I'm just going to roll with it anyway. No credentials needed.  Just a fire extinguisher and taste testers to use as victims, which by default is going to have to be the dogs this time around.  If they spit it out, then plan B is cake from a box.

Quote:If you want to challenge my credentials, then I'll be glad to lay them out before an unbiased public panel with you present, and if you can negate them, then I'll buy you a pony.  If not, sorry about your luck.  Still, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Whatever you say dear. 
We have all the ponies we need right now. 

Actually in the last 30 minutes you have demonstrated the level of your knowledge in the subject. 
why question the credentials of someone who clearly has no background AT ALL in a subject.
Oh wait, sorry ... you went to Sunday School. Pardon me.
Which is obviously less than zero. 
Could not even post one reference. 

All hat, no cattle. LMAO

(December 24, 2018 at 9:37 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:If you want to challenge my credentials, then I'll be glad to lay them out before an unbiased public panel with you present, and if you can negate them, then I'll buy you a pony.  If not, sorry about your luck.  Still, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Whatever you say dear. 
We have all the ponies we need right now. 

Actually in the last 30 minutes you have demonstrated the level of your knowledge in the subject. 
why question the credentials of someone who clearly has no background AT ALL in a subject.
Oh wait, sorry ... you went to Sunday School. Pardon me.  
Which is obviously less than zero. 
Could not even post one reference. 

All hat, no cattle. LMAO

In the last 30 minutes, I've mostly been in the kitchen crushing graham crackers with a meat tenderizer.

Also, I offered to exchange references/sources independently and it's still an open offer.   As far as my credentials go, you are free to challenge them before a public panel with both of us present.  If not, then your opinion means jack to me.  If someone else wants to believe you, then more power to you both.

Okay, back to making yogurt pies.