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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:39 am
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(January 5, 2019 at 6:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 5:58 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think god is a mixture of anthropomorphism of concepts, such as love, morality etc, mixed with an attempt to explain stuff without having to really think about them.
That is my definition of god.
You could think something is made of sparkles and fairy dust, but that doesn't mean that's what something is. There seems to be this underlying conception with nonreligious people that those who believe in God don't think, but in most cases, you would be wrong.
It does appear to be what you believe in though.
You have not even attempted to say how god does all the super special stuff you say nor have you provided evidence.
Sparkles and fairy dust is a good way to describe your beliefs as far as I can tell.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:42 am
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(January 5, 2019 at 6:37 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (January 5, 2019 at 6:33 am)Amarok Wrote: So he's still insisting we define god 
Observation says otherwise
People will generally see what they want to see. You are no exception. Nope . Why would I want to see people as ignorant and unthinking ?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:42 am
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(January 5, 2019 at 3:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Do you believe everything people point out? That's why you do research. It someone tells you something, check it out for yourself.
A "dictionary" is an authority for defining terms. (December 30, 2018 at 3:11 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: If you won't listen to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, then you surely aren't going to accept my definition for something.
Lets see how M-W dictionary defines dictionary then.
Quote:1 : a reference source in print or electronic form containing words usually alphabetically arranged along with information about their forms, pronunciations, functions, etymologies, meanings, and syntactic and idiomatic uses
2 : a reference book listing alphabetically terms or names important to a particular subject or activity along with discussion of their meanings and applications
3 : a reference book listing alphabetically the words of one language and showing their meanings or translations in another language
4 : a computerized list (as of items of data or words) used for reference (as for information retrieval or word processing)
Where does M-W say that dictionaries define anything?
The fact that dictionaries only refer to current usage of words is pretty evident once you consider that dictionaries start including new words/terms or change the *definition* after they acknowledged the new word/term or changed usage already is applied in everyday used by society.
Nobody reads a dictionary to tell him on how to use a word (but Max maybe) but to inform himself about the current consensus of usage. Otoh the *i have an authoritative book* fallacy is pretty common amongst adherents of (abrahamic) religions.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:51 am
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:54 am
(January 5, 2019 at 6:46 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I did show you mine. I'm in agreement with the dictionary. I believe I used Merriam-Webster, so there ya go. Here it is again from M-W:
God
1 capitalized: the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
That is not a definition that is in any way useful.
It has not descriptive or explanatory.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 6:58 am
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 7:03 am
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Quote:the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
By that definition the being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is not worshipped by anybody isnt a god?
So, if being "x" did all this, and is all this, but nobody whorships it, its no god?!
I suggest to work a little bit on your definition.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
January 5, 2019 at 7:06 am
(January 5, 2019 at 7:03 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Quote:the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe
By that definition the being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is not worshipped by anybody isnt a god?
So, if being "x" did all this, and is all this, but nobody whorships it, its no god?!
I suggest to work a little bit on your definition.
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