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Illegal Immigration
#21
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 2:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: We haven't had any trouble existing these past few hundred years.  
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We need the labor, we need the pop replacement rate, we need the goods produced, and we need the taxes.  Foods good, musics great...what the fuck is the problem, lol?

Also, we need to stop being assholes and let the white fright go.

THIS.

There are sound arguments against having completely open borders, but this issue gets confused in the heads of scaredycat white folk. Migrant workers pose no threat whatsoever.

If anyone has a problem with migrant workers, I'd remind them that they have a problem with capitalism. Since our government won't allow citizen workers to be exploited as much as the market demands, capitalism has begun importing exploitables from latin America. Ain't no wall gonna contain what the market demands.

The overall impact of migrant workers on the economy is minimal. This is because migrant workers buy American goods and services while they live here... they stop at gas stations, they go out for beers, they go bowling, etc. This (in the long run) creates some jobs for US citizens.

Individually, American citizens lose a few pennies from their paychecks each month. If the Trumpsters really want those precious pennies back in their paychecks, they need to realize that their increase in income will be offset by pricier produce. The only thing keeping those oranges so damn cheap is good ol' human exploitation.

Of course, the immigration issue has nothing to do with job competition. It's all about ethnic purity. Because capitalism keeps importing the exploitables, the ethnic face of our country is changing. Whitey doesn't want to find out what it feels like for the shoe to be on the other foot. After all, as history has shown, that can be pretty undesirable. Too bad. So sad.

Every ethnic shift in American history has come with foreboding prophecies of "America's ultimate demise at the hands of liberated minorities." Somehow, we keep chuggin' along. And not only that, we keep improving the place for everyone. 

"America" will come to an end some day. That's unavoidable. It has happened to the greatest empires in every epoch. The mighty will eventually fall. I would prefer that our footnote in the history books doesn't contain the phrase "a fate mirroring the downfall of the Third Reich..." Therefore, I remain optimistic about the changing ethnic face of America. It might just be a sort of revitalization that keeps us going for another couple centuries.
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#22
RE: Illegal Immigration
I see that many of you are confusing border control with wanting to stop immigration.  It's a way that those who are against controlling immigration use to cloud the issue.  I stated in my OP that I am in favor of our liberal immigration quotas and think that it is a positive for America.  Another they use is to label anyone who is in favor of border control is a racist.   They're tactics to shift the attention away from the real issues.  If some stranger came to the door of your house, said they were a refugee from another country and wanted to move in with you would you just open up the door and let him in?  You might even be willing to take him in, but not without first knowing who he is and what his real situation is first.  If you want to know what uncontrolled immigration can do to a civilization just as the Native Americansand they'll tell you.
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#23
RE: Illegal Immigration
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#24
RE: Illegal Immigration
You'll understand if I don't accept numbers from FAIR, I hope.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#25
RE: Illegal Immigration
We have border control. A wall won't help that. That's not how things work.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
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#26
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm)Mermaid Wrote: We have border control. A wall won't help that. That's not how things work.

We don't have border control. If we did there wouldn't be thousands per day crossing illegally.
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#27
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 5:00 pm)Lek Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm)Mermaid Wrote: We have border control. A wall won't help that. That's not how things work.

We don't have border control.  If we did there wouldn't be thousands per day crossing illegally.

Yes, we do have border control. A lot of it. Have you tried to cross the border lately?
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
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#28
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 5:00 pm)Lek Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm)Mermaid Wrote: We have border control. A wall won't help that. That's not how things work.

We don't have border control.  If we did there wouldn't be thousands per day crossing illegally.

A quick Google tells me:

-The US employs about 20 000 Border Patrol agents.  This number does not include non-field personnel.

-The USBP has a budget of about US$4 billion.

-The USBP operates (depending on how you count them) 10 000-12 000 vehicles.

-In 2017, the USBP either apprehended or turned back a little more than half a million people.

-The CPB estimates (hard to get exact figures) that around 300 000 people successfully and illegally entered the US in 2017, and that it has declined since then (so, it isn't 'thousands per day').

It that's not border control, it'll do until some comes along.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#29
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 2:35 pm)Jane2d Wrote: But the inherent racism of the left is graphically shown when they tolerate such abuse by latinos

The cry of the dictator and the totalitarian down through the ages, blame the victims for the consequences of the evil done onto them.

Keep up with the Julius Streicher levels of propoganda, girl, it only exposes and reinforces your true nature.
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#30
RE: Illegal Immigration
(January 5, 2019 at 6:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 5:00 pm)Lek Wrote: We don't have border control.  If we did there wouldn't be thousands per day crossing illegally.

A quick Google tells me:

-The US employs about 20 000 Border Patrol agents.  This number does not include non-field personnel.

-The USBP has a budget of about US$4 billion.

-The USBP operates (depending on how you count them) 10 000-12 000 vehicles.

-In 2017, the USBP either apprehended or turned back a little more than half a million people.

-The CPB estimates (hard to get exact figures) that around 300 000 people successfully and illegally entered the US in 2017, and that it has declined since then (so, it isn't 'thousands per day').

It that's not border control, it'll do until some comes along.

Boru

This is border control? Some needs to come along right now.
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