(January 10, 2019 at 6:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 6:18 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: - You say there has never been any evidence.  Others clearly say differently.  Who determines evidence?
- I don't go around rejecting claims of Apollo, Thor, or Poseidon.  Not sure where you got that idea.'
- Why try to invalidate my Muslim friend?  I have hope for him, not hate.  I even gain from him at times, but he's not a tool.  He's a friend, and I don't need to be a Muslim to be his friend.

You know what claims are like, don't you? Everyone has one.

Again, there are certainly plenty of claims of deities/God/gods/super natural. So what?

It cant be humans are merely projecting their own qualities, desires, narcissism, and insecurities into the form of bad claims that take on comic book form?

Next time you see your pet, or a video of a pet reacting to it's own reflection in a mirror, remember this.

And where did I accuse you of having hate for your Muslim friend? I already said I value human rights myself. I am not asking you to hate anyone. I am saying you got it wrong.

You're assuming yourself as an authority to determine value to things.  Why?  Who gave you such authority?

How do you know why a pet responds the way they do?  Does it have to be specific or can the pet determine their reason for doing so?  This very thing happened last night.  I was walking one of my dogs and on our way home we went by a glass door. He noticed movement in it from a distance. walked towards it for a moment, I said "come on Max" and we were back home a minute or two later.  We didn't need to stop, and no reason to assume he attributed any special consideration for what moved or why it did such.

Not quite sure what you are suggesting I got wrong.  Can you clarify?  Thanks in advance.

(January 10, 2019 at 7:52 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 6:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know what claims are like, don't you? Everyone has one.

Again, there are certainly plenty of claims of deities/God/gods/super natural. So what?

It cant be humans are merely projecting their own qualities, desires, narcissism, and insecurities into the form of bad claims that take on comic book form?

Next time you see your pet, or a video of a pet reacting to it's own reflection in a mirror, remember this.

And where did I accuse you of having hate for your Muslim friend? I already said I value human rights myself. I am not asking you to hate anyone. I am saying you got it wrong.

You're assuming yourself as an authority to determine value to things.  Why?  Who gave you such authority?

How do you know why a pet responds the way they do?  Does it have to be specific or can the pet determine their reason for doing so?  This very thing happened last night.  I was walking one of my dogs and on our way home we went by a glass door. He noticed movement in it from a distance. walked towards it for a moment, I said "come on Max" and we were back home a minute or two later.  We didn't need to stop, and no reason to assume he attributed any special consideration for what moved or why it did such.

Not quite sure what you are suggesting I got wrong.  Can you  clarify?  Thanks in advance.

I am not assuming myself as an authority of anything.

You either have evidence or you do not.

Oh did I mention I am dating Angelina Jolie? It's true because she exists and I do as well too.

WHAT? You doubt my claim you say?

See how easy it is to dismiss naked assertions?

(January 10, 2019 at 8:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 7:52 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You're assuming yourself as an authority to determine value to things.  Why?  Who gave you such authority?

How do you know why a pet responds the way they do?  Does it have to be specific or can the pet determine their reason for doing so?  This very thing happened last night.  I was walking one of my dogs and on our way home we went by a glass door. He noticed movement in it from a distance. walked towards it for a moment, I said "come on Max" and we were back home a minute or two later.  We didn't need to stop, and no reason to assume he attributed any special consideration for what moved or why it did such.

Not quite sure what you are suggesting I got wrong.  Can you  clarify?  Thanks in advance.

I am not assuming myself as an authority of anything.

You either have evidence or you do not.

Oh did I mention I am dating Angelina Jolie? It's true because she exists and I do as well too.

WHAT? You doubt my claim you say?

See how easy it is to dismiss naked assertions?

Sure you did.  To determine evidence of supernatural cognition.  Or are you suggesting this wasn't you?

"Sorry, but there has never been any evidence in our species history of a super natural cognition. Certainly lots of claims of countless labels throughout our species history, but no evidence of any."

If you did say this, then we should assume you are the end all in determining evidence of supernatural cognition?  I mean you did declare an absolute, so that's a pretty hefty claim in itself.

Aside from that, congrats on dating Angelina Jolie.  Send her my regards.

(January 10, 2019 at 8:23 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 8:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am not assuming myself as an authority of anything.

You either have evidence or you do not.

Oh did I mention I am dating Angelina Jolie? It's true because she exists and I do as well too.

WHAT? You doubt my claim you say?

See how easy it is to dismiss naked assertions?

Sure you did.  To determine evidence of supernatural cognition.  Or are you suggesting this wasn't you?

"Sorry, but there has never been any evidence in our species history of a super natural cognition. Certainly lots of claims of countless labels throughout our species history, but no evidence of any."

If you did say this, then we should assume you are the end all in determining evidence of supernatural cognition?  I mean you did declare an absolute, so that's a pretty hefty claim in itself.

Aside from that, congrats on dating Angelina Jolie.  Send her my regards.

I never claimed there was evidence of any super natural cognition. Theists do that not me.

I say humans  make up those claims as a reflection of their own qualities, desires, narcissism and insecurities. Just like a dog will bark at it's own reflection in a mirror.

Otherwise my odds of dating Angelina Joile are 100%. 

But somehow, I think you are smart enough to get my sarcasm in knowing it is a snarky way of wishing.

(January 10, 2019 at 8:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 8:23 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Sure you did.  To determine evidence of supernatural cognition.  Or are you suggesting this wasn't you?

"Sorry, but there has never been any evidence in our species history of a super natural cognition. Certainly lots of claims of countless labels throughout our species history, but no evidence of any."

If you did say this, then we should assume you are the end all in determining evidence of supernatural cognition?  I mean you did declare an absolute, so that's a pretty hefty claim in itself.

Aside from that, congrats on dating Angelina Jolie.  Send her my regards.

I never claimed there was evidence of any super natural cognition. Theists do that not me.

I say humans  make up those claims as a reflection of their own qualities, desires, narcissism and insecurities. Just like a dog will bark at it's own reflection in a mirror.

Otherwise my odds of dating Angelina Joile are 100%. 

But somehow, I think you are smart enough to get my sarcasm in knowing it is a snarky way of wishing.

- No, you said the opposite and asserted "no evidence."  So by what authority are you claiming an absolute?

0 = None = Absolutely nothing

To declare this, wouldn't you need to be an authority to declare what is evidence and what isn't?  If someone else says they've shared or found evidence, by what authority do you declare their claims null?

- My dog didn't barked.  I "barked" at him and told him to come on.  He listened.  If it wasn't around 2 am, I probably wouldn't have minded him trying to figure it out.

- So you attribute a special value to Angelina and the possibility of dating her.  If you assume it impossible, then it probably won't happen, but if you believe it can happen, then your odds are probably better.

(January 10, 2019 at 8:53 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 8:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I never claimed there was evidence of any super natural cognition. Theists do that not me.

I say humans  make up those claims as a reflection of their own qualities, desires, narcissism and insecurities. Just like a dog will bark at it's own reflection in a mirror.

Otherwise my odds of dating Angelina Joile are 100%. 

But somehow, I think you are smart enough to get my sarcasm in knowing it is a snarky way of wishing.

- No, you said the opposite and asserted "no evidence."  So by what authority are you claiming an absolute?

0 = None = Absolutely nothing

To declare this, wouldn't you need to be an authority to declare what is evidence and what isn't?  If someone else says they've shared or found evidence, by what authority do you declare their claims null?

- My dog didn't barked.  I "barked" at him and told him to come on.  He listened.  If it wasn't around 2 am, I probably wouldn't have minded him trying to figure it out.

- So you attribute a special value to Angelina and the possibility of dating her.  If you assume it impossible, then it probably won't happen, but if you believe it can happen, then your odds are probably better.

Yes I did say there is no evidence And?

If every claim is true until proven false then I am dating Angelina Jolie because you cant prove I am not.

(January 10, 2019 at 9:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 8:53 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: - No, you said the opposite and asserted "no evidence."  So by what authority are you claiming an absolute?

0 = None = Absolutely nothing

To declare this, wouldn't you need to be an authority to declare what is evidence and what isn't?  If someone else says they've shared or found evidence, by what authority do you declare their claims null?

- My dog didn't barked.  I "barked" at him and told him to come on.  He listened.  If it wasn't around 2 am, I probably wouldn't have minded him trying to figure it out.

- So you attribute a special value to Angelina and the possibility of dating her.  If you assume it impossible, then it probably won't happen, but if you believe it can happen, then your odds are probably better.

Yes I did say there is no evidence And?

If every claim is true until proven false then I am dating Angelina Jolie because you cant prove I am not.

So you made yourself the determining factor of all evidence.  Got it.

If your hope is to date Angelina Jolie and she's available, then I'll wish you the best in it.

(January 10, 2019 at 8:53 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 10, 2019 at 8:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I never claimed there was evidence of any super natural cognition. Theists do that not me.

I say humans  make up those claims as a reflection of their own qualities, desires, narcissism and insecurities. Just like a dog will bark at it's own reflection in a mirror.

Otherwise my odds of dating Angelina Joile are 100%. 

But somehow, I think you are smart enough to get my sarcasm in knowing it is a snarky way of wishing.

- No, you said the opposite and asserted "no evidence."  So by what authority are you claiming an absolute?

0 = None = Absolutely nothing

To declare this, wouldn't you need to be an authority to declare what is evidence and what isn't?  If someone else says they've shared or found evidence, by what authority do you declare their claims null?

- My dog didn't barked.  I "barked" at him and told him to come on.  He listened.  If it wasn't around 2 am, I probably wouldn't have minded him trying to figure it out.

- So you attribute a special value to Angelina and the possibility of dating her.  If you assume it impossible, then it probably won't happen, but if you believe it can happen, then your odds are probably better.

What is evidence? Have you heard of the evidence hierarchy?

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