(January 19, 2019 at 6:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 19, 2019 at 5:46 pm)Yonadav Wrote: That's word salad, dude. You're making it all about things that it isn't about. The abortion issue is not about producing more wanted babies. It is not about reducing unwanted pregnancies. It is not about economics and education. It is entirely about a doctor's right to perform a procedure in accordance with their medical opinion about what is best for their patient.

The procedure ending life isn't about producing a wanted baby. You are still missing my point.

The pro choice movement is about REDUCING IT!

Outlawing abortion WILL NOT produce more wanted babies.

Again, if you are STUPIDLY assuming every female, or provider goes into the decision thinking, "YEA I GET TO END LIFE" like it is a keg party, you are an idiot!

Anyone with any sanity or empathy WANTS every  baby born healthy and wanted.

I am saying that the BEST WAY to reduce abortion isn't to outlaw it, but to create long term economic/education conditions that provide females with MORE autonomy over their lives and more power over their lives through economics and education.

WTAF are you babbling about?

Economics and/or education for females does not cause or prevent pregnancy...wanted or otherwise.  

Fertile humans taking responsibility for what they do or don't do with regard to sexual interaction is what's needed.  You can educate people all you want but if they don't use that knowledge it doesn't matter.  Economics?  Really, oh poetic one, you are toeing the line of pointing to the poor like they are the only ones who find themselves in the position of having an unwanted pregnancy.

The only thing that makes some sense is your comment that everyone wants babies to be born healthy and wanted...poor people want that too.

Only you could make me think Yonadav is the rational one in a 'discussion'.

(January 19, 2019 at 6:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(January 19, 2019 at 6:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The procedure ending life isn't about producing a wanted baby. You are still missing my point.

The pro choice movement is about REDUCING IT!

Outlawing abortion WILL NOT produce more wanted babies.

Again, if you are STUPIDLY assuming every female, or provider goes into the decision thinking, "YEA I GET TO END LIFE" like it is a keg party, you are an idiot!

Anyone with any sanity or empathy WANTS every  baby born healthy and wanted.

I am saying that the BEST WAY to reduce abortion isn't to outlaw it, but to create long term economic/education conditions that provide females with MORE autonomy over their lives and more power over their lives through economics and education.

WTAF are you babbling about?

Economics and/or education for females does not cause or prevent pregnancy...wanted or otherwise.  

Fertile humans taking responsibility for what they do or don't do with regard to sexual interaction is what's needed.  You can educate people all you want but if they don't use that knowledge it doesn't matter.  Economics?  Really, oh poetic one, you are towing the line of pointing to the poor like they are the only ones who find themselves in the position of having an unwanted pregnancy.

The only thing that makes some sense is your comment that everyone wants babies to be born healthy and wanted...poor people want that too.

Only you could make me think Yonadav is the rational one in a 'discussion'.

Way to be too literal.

If one wants to claim that there is no way to prevent someone of ANY CLASS to stick a penis in a vagina, yea, NO SHIT.

But if one can educate young girls and boys about how their bodies work, and combine that with planning and education, they are LESS LIKELY to put themselves in the position of getting in over their heads.

AND OF COURSE poor people want babies and have a right to have them too. 

Which is why there should be no abject poverty in the world's richest nation. There should only be a lower middle class, a middle class and wealth within reason.

Take your meds Brian.

(January 19, 2019 at 6:46 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Take your meds Brian.

What meds?

The only people needing meds are the ones who are pro birth but don't want to do shit after the baby is born.

Oh, FFS.

(January 19, 2019 at 6:39 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(January 19, 2019 at 6:01 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The procedure ending life isn't about producing a wanted baby. You are still missing my point.

The pro choice movement is about REDUCING IT!

Outlawing abortion WILL NOT produce more wanted babies.

Again, if you are STUPIDLY assuming every female, or provider goes into the decision thinking, "YEA I GET TO END LIFE" like it is a keg party, you are an idiot!

Anyone with any sanity or empathy WANTS every  baby born healthy and wanted.

I am saying that the BEST WAY to reduce abortion isn't to outlaw it, but to create long term economic/education conditions that provide females with MORE autonomy over their lives and more power over their lives through economics and education.

WTAF are you babbling about?

Economics and/or education for females does not cause or prevent pregnancy...wanted or otherwise.  

Fertile humans taking responsibility for what they do or don't do with regard to sexual interaction is what's needed.  You can educate people all you want but if they don't use that knowledge it doesn't matter.  Economics?  Really, oh poetic one, you are towing the line of pointing to the poor like they are the only ones who find themselves in the position of having an unwanted pregnancy.

The only thing that makes some sense is your comment that everyone wants babies to be born healthy and wanted...poor people want that too.

Only you could make me think Yonadav is the rational one in a 'discussion'.

Oh, you funny lady!  

(January 19, 2019 at 6:20 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: I just found baby Hitler and guess what school he attends?

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Also, since Harley Quinn here is skeptical about the link between socioeconomic inequality and unwanted pregnancies (and abortion), here's a peer-reviewed paper from which to start.

For a Hitler abortion to have worked it would have to be done during grilling season.

(January 19, 2019 at 4:49 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(January 19, 2019 at 4:44 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Predestination?

Then attempts to killBaby Hitler will fail.

I mean "people think he will always do the same thing". That's absurd.

Sometimes old people hassle kids who are doing nothing wrong. Happened to me with an old f*cker with an accordion many years ago. 

Comment from long version of video:

Newsflash!! Maga hat wearing children stand and smile and clap along to drum beat! Get called white supremacists for no reason!! Sjw world cries tears of indignation!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k

If you look closely, you can see the crowd behind the drummer is not a part of the kid crowd. It seems this particular elder decided he was going to stop the boys chanting and diverted from the schedule.  You can clearly see in the first min of the longer video, that kid was not in the front of the crowd and the elder attempted to invade this kids space.

I did not see that kid disrespect that elder at all. He stood at attention and made no comment.  The elder has his own responsibility to communicate his desire in a language the kid is going to understand.