(February 23, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The biggest problem with CDF47 is that you'd have to educate him before you could have a legitimate argument with him.

And, before you educate him, you have to undo the brainwashing he suffered before the age of 5.
Good luck with that.

(February 22, 2019 at 7:35 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The cultist defends his false prophet in a thread devoted to the rejection of the lords work, lol. Delicious.

I never rejected the Lord's word. False accusations as usual.

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(February 22, 2019 at 10:15 am)Nomad Wrote:

(February 21, 2019 at 10:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: We are debating it right now.

Again with the lies. You are not debating anything, you are simply repeating long debunked lies and we are laughing at you.

Have you no sense of shame to complement your long displayed lack of a sense of right and wrong?

PS for somebody who so loudly and lyingly proclaims himself an oec, you're rather fond of quoting yec Stephen C Meyer. Not alone are you a compulsive liar, you're a bad one.

Dr. Stephen Meyer is also an OEC.

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(February 22, 2019 at 8:23 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(February 22, 2019 at 2:45 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: "Brilliant" must have a different meaning where you're from.

 Indeed.

That's what I'm asking for CDF47. DO you have any others?

Or are you just going to keep trotting out the same persons time after time.

Which is becoming boring because even in this thread their claims have been shown to wrong of spurios mulitple times already.

Not at work.

No they have not

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(February 22, 2019 at 9:09 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:According to you. According to some brilliant scientists it's a theory.

Their not brilliant and no ID does not qualify as a theory in any way shape or form at it's charitable it's hypothesis if even that .

It's a scientific theory. The best one out there.

Well, CDFs crusade for the holy DNA just took a hit, The DNA alphabet just doubles.

To the long familiar ACGT set of four bases, scientists have added a new synthetic group of four SBPZ.

This makes synthetic DNA literally millions of times more powerful than gods crappy version.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00650-8

Take that, god. I suppose.

(February 23, 2019 at 1:02 am)fredd bear Wrote:

(February 22, 2019 at 9:09 pm)Amarok Wrote: Their not brilliant and no ID does not qualify as a theory in any way shape or form at it's charitable it's hypothesis if even that .


Minor problem: a LOT of theists I've spoken to and seem to think that the word "theory" used in science, is a synonym for" "hypothesis"

Evolution is a scientific theory .

A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Where possible, theories are tested under controlled conditions in an experiment.[1][2] In circumstances not amenable to experimental testing, theories are evaluated through principles of abductive reasoning. Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory



Intelligent design is an hypothesis ,or proposition. It's based on the old chestnut of the "The Watchmaker's Analogy", rather than on scientific method.

Below are two points of view, that of a Christian apologist, and one from a philosopher


---the watchmaker argument, as formulated by the British Christian apologist William Paley in his book Natural Theology, goes like this:

Design Theory uses the same scientific method that Darwin used.

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(February 23, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The biggest problem with CDF47 is that you'd have to educate him before you could have a legitimate argument with him.

Please.

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(February 23, 2019 at 9:08 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The biggest problem with CDF47 is that you'd have to educate him before you could have a legitimate argument with him.

And, before you educate him, you have to undo the brainwashing he suffered before the age of 5.
Good luck with that.

I was not brainwashed. I took a critical and logical look at my faith for many years.

(February 23, 2019 at 11:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: Design Theory uses the same scientific method that Darwin used.

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(February 23, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The biggest problem with CDF47 is that you'd have to educate him before you could have a legitimate argument with him.

Please.

No it freaking doesn't . It doesn't use the scientific method ...PERIOD!!!

(February 23, 2019 at 11:00 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Well, CDFs crusade for the holy DNA just took a hit, The DNA alphabet just doubles.

To the long familiar ACGT set of four bases, scientists have added a new synthetic group of four SBPZ.

This makes synthetic DNA literally millions of times more powerful than gods crappy version.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00650-8

Take that, god. I suppose.

It probably adds more complexity, specificity, and functionality.

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(February 23, 2019 at 11:47 am)Amarok Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 11:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: Design Theory uses the same scientific method that Darwin used.

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Please.

No it freaking doesn't . It doesn't use the scientific method ...PERIOD!!!

Yes, it does and they are testing out the theory and making predictions. Like how they predicted that junk DNA wasnt actually junk and served a purpose which it does.

(February 23, 2019 at 11:43 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 9:08 am)pocaracas Wrote: And, before you educate him, you have to undo the brainwashing he suffered before the age of 5.
Good luck with that.

I was not brainwashed. I took a critical and logical look at my faith for many years.

No, you didn't.
You couldn't. You were brainwashed far before that!

(February 23, 2019 at 12:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 11:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: I was not brainwashed. I took a critical and logical look at my faith for many years.

No, you didn't.
You couldn't. You were brainwashed far before that!

Just because my mother read me the Bible at probably the age of 2 on up does not mean I am brainwashed.  My parents also taught me math, reading, and writing prior to kindergarten.  Does that mean they were brainwashing me?  No.  Again, I took a critical look at my faith many times so I am not brainwashed.  Based on all the evidence before me, I believe Christianity is the one and only true faith.

(February 23, 2019 at 12:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 12:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote: No, you didn't.
You couldn't. You were brainwashed far before that!

Just because my mother read me the Bible at probably the age of 2 on up does not mean I am brainwashed.  My parents also taught me math, reading, and writing prior to kindergarten.  Does that mean they were brainwashing me?  No.  Again, I took a critical look at my faith many times so I am not brainwashed.  Based on all the evidence before me, I believe Christianity is the one and only true faith.

Some things are useful but teaching lies is not. 
I would wager money that you are incapable of picturing a universe without a god.
Just as I am incapable of imagining a universe with a god. I don't even know what god means. Tis a meaningless phrase used to cover mans ignorance as you demonstrate multiple times a day.

(February 23, 2019 at 1:07 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(February 23, 2019 at 12:45 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Just because my mother read me the Bible at probably the age of 2 on up does not mean I am brainwashed.  My parents also taught me math, reading, and writing prior to kindergarten.  Does that mean they were brainwashing me?  No.  Again, I took a critical look at my faith many times so I am not brainwashed.  Based on all the evidence before me, I believe Christianity is the one and only true faith.

Some things are useful but teaching lies is not. 
I would wager money that you are incapable of picturing a universe without a god.
Just as I am incapable of imagining a universe with a god. I don't even know what god means. Tis a meaningless phrase used to cover mans ignorance as you demonstrate multiple times a day.

After seeing the clear signs of design in this universe I absolutely cannot envision a world without a God.

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The Bible is true.  Some will just be blind to the truth regardless of how clear the picture is.

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Mystery Babylon exists as stated in the Scriptures.  Look at all the mystery religions around the world and the international power they hold.  They control everything, including governments and intelligence agencies.  Intelligence agencies use and infiltrate secret societies and secret societies use and infiltrate intelligence agencies.  It is the secret societies with the greater international power though overall.  As stated in the Scriptures, "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."