Man has dominion? Is that why animals never attack?

(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Bye Bye Moral Objectivity!..we've got some slavin to defend...... lol.   : slowclaps :

Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

....okay, and..again...bye bye moral objectivity, we've got some slavin to defend.

....?

Now we know that you reject whatever god created this world, and you from monkeys if a god created this world or you....and that you deny the concept of right and wrong. That's quite the cult you've gotten yourself into.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 25, 2019 at 2:33 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That makes it moral? Seriously?

And you think modern day slavers are furiously thumbing through the bible looking for instructions? Seriously?

What the actual fuck? You are using the CIA as a justification for your monster god on the basis of a rumour? Seriously?

And now we come to the admission finally. You are so morally adrift that you really do think slavery can be moral. Go take a long hard look in a mirror and see how monstrous you have become thanks to your stupid beliefs.

The Lord determines the moral standard, not man.

And more lies. I determine my moral code, not some magic sky fairy.

Or are you now claiming that atheists have no morals?

And if your god determines the moral standard, why is mine better?

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(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I just know that it was designed based on the proof inside of DNA.  The design implementation is being clarified by scientists.

Oh boy is it being clarified by scientists. It is being clarified by scientist that we can do better.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is just temporary.  Man has always had dominion over the beasts of the earth.

Possibly the dumbest claim yet.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Man disobeyed God.

How did adam know it was wrong.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 25, 2019 at 4:36 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You are shitting me, right ?
You expect us to buy that a god went in and jiggered with Adam's DNA to make him un-perfect ?
LOL

I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Bye Bye Moral Objectivity!..we've got some slavin to defend...... lol.   : slowclaps :

Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

1. There is no life-form on the planet Earth that does not die. There is no evidence anything changed that made man mortal.
BTW, you're contradicting yourself. If man always had immortal souls, then he didn't really die anyway. So which is it ? Die or not die ?
2. The 10 Commandments came from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. None of the moral codes,
(and there are many moral codes which pre-date the10 Commandments), come from the gods.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 25, 2019 at 4:36 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You are shitting me, right ?
You expect us to buy that a god went in and jiggered with Adam's DNA to make him un-perfect ?
LOL

I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Bye Bye Moral Objectivity!..we've got some slavin to defend...... lol.   : slowclaps :

Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

You mean the 613 commandments, dumbass.

(February 25, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(February 25, 2019 at 5:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

You mean the 613 commandments, dumbass.

 Just so. 

They are collectively known as 'the mitzvot',or just 'the law', meaning The Law Of Moses. They may all be found in the Torah, also known as the pentateuch. (Greek for 'five books')

"The tradition that 613 commandments (Hebrew: תרי"ג מצוות, taryag mitzvot, "613 mitzvot") is the number of mitzvot in the Torah, began in the 3rd century CE, when Rabbi Simlai mentioned it in a sermon that is recorded in Talmud Makkot 23b.[1]

Although there have been a lot of attempts to codify and enumerate the commandments contained in the Torah, the most traditional enumeration is Maimonides'. The 613 commandments include "positive commandments", to perform an act (mitzvot aseh), and "negative commandments", to abstain from certain acts (mitzvot lo taaseh). The negative commandments number 365, which coincides with the number of days in the solar year, and the positive commandments number 248, a number ascribed to the number of bones and main organs in the human body (Babylonian Talmud, Makkot 23b–24a).[2] Though the number 613 is mentioned in the Talmud, its real significance increased in later medieval rabbinic literature, including many works listing or arranged by the mitzvot. Three types of negative commandments fall under the self-sacrificial principle yehareg ve'al ya'avor, meaning "One should let oneself be killed rather than violate it". These are murder, idolatry, and forbidden sexual relations.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments

The link below is to a full list of the mitzvot.

http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm


There is some confusion among Christians about The Law Of Moses.

Jesus said categorically, that he had no come to change The Law , by "a jot or a tittle" (English translation.)---Then along came Paul. He abolished all the ritual mitzvah, including dietary laws and the bris* (circumcision) I did that so gentiles could join, which they did, in great numbers. Being very similar to at least one of the mystery religions Christianity  became an instant hit with the marginalised, especially women and slaves.

 Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Of course, apologists tend to hav a rather different  interpretation, as they always do when dogma might be contradicted. 


* This is not one of the 613 mitzvah, but part of Abraham's covenant with god.

(February 25, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: [quote='CDF47' pid='1887546' dateline='1551129677']

I believe it is when the fall happened, yes, then they would surely die.

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Again God set the moral code as love God and neighbor and He gave the Ten Commandments.

(February 25, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: 1. There is no life-form on the planet Earth that does not die.

There is an immortal jelly fish. It gets killed by predators or accidents but not of old age.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

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(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote: [quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1887505' dateline='1551117824']
I notice CD said DNA is evidence for a designer but yet again failed to say how the designer designed, or implemented its design or introduced any actual evidence. Just the long refuted claim, again.

(February 25, 2019 at 5:17 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I just know that it was designed based on the proof inside of DNA.  The design implementation is being clarified by scientists.

All this tells me is that you are ignorant on how it could happen without design.
Not that it couldn't happen without design.
in fact you have been told often how it could happen without design.

(February 24, 2019 at 8:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote: [quote pid='1887054' dateline='1550940347']

Just because my mother read me the Bible at probably the age of 2 on up does not mean I am brainwashed.  My parents also taught me math, reading, and writing prior to kindergarten.  Does that mean they were brainwashing me?  No.  Again, I took a critical look at my faith many times so I am not brainwashed.  Based on all the evidence before me, I believe Christianity is the one and only true faith.

You're not a Christian if you need to have your faith based on the ''evidence before you". When you actually read the Bible you will find out that St. Paul tells you that Christian faith is a gift of your god, and it has nothing to do with you or any sort of reasoning process OR "proofs" from your DNA clap-trap, however WRONG you are about DNA proving a designer.

Which is a blessing in many christians cases.  They don't think so good.