They say sex is good for one. I say it is better for two.

In my twenties, I was a slyph. (5 feet 10, 140 lbs) I could have eaten Tupperware with no ill effects. I had been training with Shodokan Karate before I was conscripted. That meant I found army exercises laughable, except for the running with 60 lbs of gear., that was not at all amusing.

Got out, weighing 126 lbs. Unfortunately for me, while I was away, our notorious Six O'clock Closing had been abolished, and licensed dances sprang up. In six months I went to 168 lbs, and stayed that way for 20 years. During that time, sex was the most exercise I got.

After the divorce, my weight went up, and today hovers around 200lbs .Exercise? Well, today, sexually, I'm a lot like Antartica; everyone knows where it is, but no one wants to go there.

Exercise? Well, I go to the mall most days, and from-time-to -time am overcome by an urge to do some gardening. Happily, the urge usually subsides after 10 minutes of vicious gardening.That's when my knees seize , and it takes me another 10 minutes to stand up.

Exercise?? eggs -are -sides ... for bacon. Bacon makes everything better.

(March 7, 2019 at 9:46 am)tackattack Wrote: Exercise?? eggs -are -sides  ... for bacon. Bacon makes everything better.

 Tell ya a secret: 

Obesity isa bigger problem in Oz than it is the US.  I blame it on McDonalds  and a lack of moral fibre due  convict ancestry.  

I'm overweight ,born in the free settlement of South Australia. IE No convicts in MY family. it's also been over 30 years since I ate at a US fast food chain. Except for Subway ,twice; they sold me iNSTANT coffee!  Yet, I'm still fat. Why? Because I'm an  obsessive  compulsive pig  of course.


There's a new taboo, called 'fat shaming ' I really don't get it. Obese people tend not to be forced to eat at gunpoint.  However , many obese people do have an enabler. I don't . So have no excuse.

I bike 60k four to five times a week. Home to work, work to home.
Been going at that for over half a year now, almost a year i think. Feel better than i have in years.

Got some good exercise last night nudge nudge wink wink.

(March 8, 2019 at 3:17 am)fredd bear Wrote:

(March 7, 2019 at 9:46 am)tackattack Wrote: Exercise?? eggs -are -sides  ... for bacon. Bacon makes everything better.

 Tell ya a secret: 

Obesity isa bigger problem in Oz than it is the US.  I blame it on McDonalds  and a lack of moral fibre due  convict ancestry.  

I'm overweight ,born in the free settlement of South Australia. IE No convicts in MY family. it's also been over 30 years since I ate at a US fast food chain. Except for Subway ,twice; they sold me iNSTANT coffee!  Yet, I'm still fat. Why? Because I'm an  obsessive  compulsive pig  of course.


There's a new taboo, called 'fat shaming ' I really don't get it. Obese people tend not to be forced to eat at gunpoint.  However , many obese people do have an enabler. I don't . So have no excuse.

"Fat shaming" is something created by obese people to try an normalize being overweight. And while I believe that, in general, you should be able to live how you want, being overweight is legitimately unhealthy and makes you feel like crap about yourself. At the very least, when you're overweight you're not the best version of you that you can be. If you're okay with that, and willing to accept the potential consequences of being fat, then more power to you I guess. I think you're not going to feel as good about yourself as you would if you were thin, but hey, live your life.

But to suggest that we should normalize being overweight and not promote physical well-being through exercise and proper diet is complete nonsense. Models are skinny/muscular and exceptionally attractive for a reason. That's why they're models - because it takes an insane amount of work to be really fit and keep your figure like that.

It doesn't take any effort to be fat and just throw on some clothes, get in front of a camera and call yourself a "plus-sized model." While there may be an audience that wants to see plus-sized models, for the most part, models are going to be skinny/muscular and insanely hot so long as that's what our societal and primal standards for beauty are.

I dated a girl who was a model and I remember how insanely stressed she used to be about her job all the time. She put so much work into watching what she ate and keeping a regular exercise routine that I think it legitimately played a part in why we broke up - which is fine, we honestly weren't right for each other to begin with and I was at an age where I still wanted to party and be free.

But I could tell how much it weighed on her. She works for a big company now and is somewhat well-known in the fashion world so she's quite accomplished and is doing very well for herself - but holy shit did it take a lot of hard work for her to get there. She went through a lot of shit to be where she is now.

And you mean to tell me that after this girl obsessed constantly over what she ate, kept an extremely regimented workout routine and busted her ass for years to find the right agent to get her the right gigs so she could make a living doing what she loved, that some fat girl or fat guy can walk into the same agency and call her or himself a model and start getting gigs? Get the fuck outta here. That's insane.

Granted, that's now actually how it works as there are few agencies that are going to hire overweight people for modeling. I'm sure big & tall catalogs for men need heftier guys - and that's fine. That's who SHOULD be modeling those clothes. But to try and normalize it to a point where you think being fat is just as okay as being a healthy weight is simply nonsense. If you're overweight, you're not as healthy as you could be. That's just the facts.

My baby sister (who is now 58) was model-beautiful at 18. Wanted to be a model. Between myself and other sibs we talked her out of it.

Today, she has been on airline cabin crew for 30 years, has a life style she loves ,and wages most people only dream about. (wages and conditions have changed for new employees greatly, but not hers, as she's an old chook)

(March 9, 2019 at 1:02 am)fredd bear Wrote: My baby sister (who is now 58) was model-beautiful at 18.  Wanted to be a model. Between myself and other sibs  we talked her out of it.

Today, she has been on airline cabin crew for 30 years, has a life style she loves ,and wages most people only dream about. (wages and conditions have changed for new employees greatly, but not hers, as she's an old chook)

Why did you guys talk her out of it?

I can say that the girl I dated was super stressed out all the time. While it has paid off for her, since she's now taken a leadership role in some company in NYC, it doesn't for plenty of people. For a lot of people it seems to be a dead end.

I went for a run this morning. Totally unplanned, but those cops came out of nowhere.

I recently started exercising regularly. Thanks to a change in insurance, I get a free gym membership, and I depend upon the classes they offer to keep me active and involved. If I had to work out on my own, I'd hate it and probably have a really hard time of it. I was pretty athletic when I was younger, but age and the constant companionship of depression left me rather sedentary. My mental health improved this past summer to the point that depression is much less of an issue now, so I really have no idea how much psychological benefit I'm getting from exercise. I'm mainly doing it because I'd rather age more gracefully rather than less so, and at my age, that can make a big difference. The only thing I worry about is that I wonder if I'm getting an appropriate level of exercise for that goal. I attend Silver Sneakers classes, and they are pretty active for about 20 minutes out of a 45 minute class, but I may need to add something else to get my heart rate up where it needs to be for the effort to be really effective. I'm not sure. I'm due for a physical, so I'll talk to my doctor about it. They do have "cycling" classes which, I assume, employ stationary bikes, and those might provide a more effective workout. It's harder to cobble together a weekly set of classes from those, though, as they're not as well represented.