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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 5:51 am
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(March 14, 2019 at 1:47 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.
No....given the vastly different dates of the genetic 'Clocks' it would be rather impossible for them to meet.
From memory I'm pretty sure mtEve 'Came first'......
Sooo... your magic book's hypothesis would seem a tad 'Out' with its version of how events unfolded.
There is no way to tell genetically if the first Mt-Eve met the first Y-Adam.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Chromosomal...l-Eve.html
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 7:04 am
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There is. You need to stop reading cultist propaganda. Not that it matters, since you don't believe in all of this common descent bullshit anyway. We all have common genetics because of a common plan..not because we're all related, and, as you put it, there have been "explosions of life".
Makes one wonder just how many mud people tinkergod made and then breathed life into, lol. All of us, I guess.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 7:23 am
(March 14, 2019 at 7:04 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: There is. You need to stop reading cultist propaganda. Not that it matters, since you don't believe in all of this common descent bullshit anyway. We all have common genetics because of a common plan..not because we're all related, and, as you put it, there have been "explosions of life".
Makes one wonder just how many mud people tinkergod made and then breathed life into, lol. All of us, I guess.
He has breathed the spirit of life into all of us (~128 billion ever).
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 7:25 am
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If you say so. Are we done with the whole eve thing, then, or do you want to continue to maintain that insistence even as you deny the things that would be required for it to be true?
Have you made up your mind yet...and whichever way you go with it, are you ready to acknowledge that the remainder of comments you've made on either side of that line were misinformed? I only ask because that;s what a discussion looks like, talking with people about something, rather than talking at them about nothing. It's also what it looks like when a person is whittling the detritus of their thoughts into something approaching a cogent position that they can then argue for in good faith.
Are you ready to have a discussion? Or would you prefer to endlessly profess the fact free articles of your faith to a bunch of people who don't give a shit?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am
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(March 14, 2019 at 12:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 12:14 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Then you really should stop lying about the subject, if you have no evidence that
1. there ever was a state of preternatural perfection,
2. that at some point that changed.
You keep stating that humans came from one man and one woman.
Where did Neanderthals come from, and how do you explain Neanderthal DNA in human DNA sequences.
Some believe Neanderthals fall into beasts of the field, Biblically speaking. They have a pretty common body design with humans but they have differences. I do not believe Neanderthals are counted as human beings. Some believe the opposite, that they fall into the human category, which I disagree with.
The ancient Hebrews had no clue there even was a category of homo neaderthalensis.
It is nowhere even mentioned in any Bible text.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...rthalensis
The POINT is they were able to interbreed. You even know what that means ?
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...ls/species
You forgot to say EXACTLY why they are not human.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm
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(March 14, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: If you say so. Are we done with the whole eve thing, then, or do you want to continue to maintain that insistence even as you deny the things that would be required for it to be true?
Have you made up your mind yet...and whichever way you go with it, are you ready to acknowledge that the remainder of comments you've made on either side of that line were misinformed? I only ask because that;s what a discussion looks like, talking with people about something, rather than talking at them about nothing. It's also what it looks like when a person is whittling the detritus of their thoughts into something approaching a cogent position that they can then argue for in good faith.
Are you ready to have a discussion? Or would you prefer to endlessly profess the fact free articles of your faith to a bunch of people who don't give a shit?
I guess we settled on a position related to Mt-Eve so I'm ready to move on from that one.
(March 14, 2019 at 10:50 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 12:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: Some believe Neanderthals fall into beasts of the field, Biblically speaking. They have a pretty common body design with humans but they have differences. I do not believe Neanderthals are counted as human beings. Some believe the opposite, that they fall into the human category, which I disagree with.
The ancient Hebrews had no clue there even was a category of homo neaderthalensis.
It is nowhere even mentioned in any Bible text.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...rthalensis
The POINT is they were able to interbreed. You even know what that means ?
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...ls/species
You forgot to say EXACTLY why they are not human.
They may fall in the human category then as many believe. Either that or they are considered beasts of the field Bibically speaking. Not every beast is named. That's not the point of the book.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 1:11 pm
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(March 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 7:25 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: If you say so. Are we done with the whole eve thing, then, or do you want to continue to maintain that insistence even as you deny the things that would be required for it to be true?
Have you made up your mind yet...and whichever way you go with it, are you ready to acknowledge that the remainder of comments you've made on either side of that line were misinformed? I only ask because that;s what a discussion looks like, talking with people about something, rather than talking at them about nothing. It's also what it looks like when a person is whittling the detritus of their thoughts into something approaching a cogent position that they can then argue for in good faith.
Are you ready to have a discussion? Or would you prefer to endlessly profess the fact free articles of your faith to a bunch of people who don't give a shit?
I guess we settled on a position related to Mt-Eve so I'm ready to move on from that one. For clarity, what position would that be, that you were right or wrong about genetics indicating common descent? Were you telling the truth or lying about what your own sources commented on? Were your sources, themselves, accurate?
I have some follow up questions to any answer to these. Questions that you might actually have more insight into than anyone else in the discussion.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm
(March 14, 2019 at 1:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I guess we settled on a position related to Mt-Eve so I'm ready to move on from that one. For clarity, what position would that be, that you were right or wrong about genetics indicating common descent? Were you telling the truth or lying about what your own sources commented on? Were your sources, themselves, accurate?
I have some follow up questions to any answer to these. Questions that you might actually have more insight into than anyone else in the discussion.
It does show a common descent and it does not rule out a common descent down to one man and one woman from the beginning. I always try my best to tell the truth. I am a very honest person. In fact, I never lied to my ex-wife once in a 19 year relationship. I always try to be honest so not sure why there are so many false accusations of lying here. My sources are accurate. I posted one above.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 1:40 pm
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(March 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 1:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: For clarity, what position would that be, that you were right or wrong about genetics indicating common descent? Were you telling the truth or lying about what your own sources commented on? Were your sources, themselves, accurate?
I have some follow up questions to any answer to these. Questions that you might actually have more insight into than anyone else in the discussion.
It does show a common descent and it does not rule out a common descent down to one man and one woman from the beginning. I always try my best to tell the truth. I am a very honest person. In fact, I never lied to my ex-wife once in a 19 year relationship. I always try to be honest so not sure why there are so many false accusations of lying here. My sources are accurate. I posted one above.
OFC I had follow up questions in the case that you were committed to lying your ass off, lol.
So, since you insist that genetics does indeed indicate common descent then why do you reject common descent?
If genetics doesn't rule out the notion that mteve and yadam were mates then why do the same geneticists who do this work think that it does, in your opinion?
See...two questions that you ought to be the undisputed expert on, on these boards. Why do you believe contradictory things, and why do you think everyone who knows jack shit about this has it wrong?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 14, 2019 at 2:38 pm
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(March 14, 2019 at 1:40 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (March 14, 2019 at 1:28 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It does show a common descent and it does not rule out a common descent down to one man and one woman from the beginning. I always try my best to tell the truth. I am a very honest person. In fact, I never lied to my ex-wife once in a 19 year relationship. I always try to be honest so not sure why there are so many false accusations of lying here. My sources are accurate. I posted one above.
OFC I had follow up questions in the case that you were committed to lying your ass off, lol.
So, since you insist that genetics does indeed indicate common descent then why do you reject common descent?
If genetics doesn't rule out the notion that mteve and yadam were mates then why do the same geneticists who do this work think that it does, in your opinion?
See...two questions that you ought to be the undisputed expert on, on these boards. Why do you believe contradictory things, and why do you think everyone who knows jack shit about this has it wrong?
I don't believe we slowly descended from monkeys.
Nowhere does someone go on record stating the two were definitely not mates dating back to the first man and woman.
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