Why are you so stupid and persistent in exhibiting your Christianity induced stupidity?

If you go away, our opinion of both your level of utter and nearly indescribable stupidity and of the baleful effects of your so called faith will be forever stay merely at its current low level. We will have no cause to further worsen our opinion of your intelligence or the despicable effects of your religion any more. It would really be the best for your reputation and the reputation of your “faith” to quit now.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OFC I had follow up questions in the case that you were committed to lying your ass off, lol.

So, since you insist that genetics does indeed indicate common descent then why do you reject common descent?  

If genetics doesn't rule out the notion that mteve and yadam were mates then why do the same geneticists who do this work think that it does, in your opinion?

See...two questions that you ought to be the undisputed expert on, on these boards.  Why do you believe contradictory things, and why do you think everyone who knows jack shit about this has it wrong?

(March 15, 2019 at 11:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Why are you so stupid and persistent in exhibiting your Christianity induced stupidity?

If you go away, our opinion of both your level of utter and nearly indescribable stupidity and of the baleful effects of your so called faith will be forever stay merely at its current low level. We will have no cause to further worsen our opinion of your intelligence or the despicable effects of your religion any more. It would really be the best for your reputation and the reputation of your “faith” to quit now.

Quit for what. I'm just discussing my favorite topic on here. Not too concerned about my rep among atheists.

You're not discussing anything, you're repeatedly professing the articles of your faith.  You could have a discussion at any time you wanted to...but we've all seen how that plays out, now haven't we?

(March 15, 2019 at 11:41 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(March 14, 2019 at 10:58 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OFC I had follow up questions in the case that you were committed to lying your ass off, lol.

So, since you insist that genetics does indeed indicate common descent then why do you reject common descent?  

If genetics doesn't rule out the notion that mteve and yadam were mates then why do the same geneticists who do this work think that it does, in your opinion?

See...two questions that you ought to be the undisputed expert on, on these boards.  Why do you believe contradictory things, and why do you think everyone who knows jack shit about this has it wrong?

Who are these experts that say they didn't ever meet?

I believe in a common descent among humans. I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans some couple hundred thousand years ago.

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(March 15, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You're not discussing anything, you're repeatedly professing the articles of your faith.  You could have a discussion at any time you wanted to...but we've all seen how that plays out, now haven't we?

I've been discussing this since I got here last year. My opinion in most regards is unchanged.

Case in point.   You professed the articles of your faith, again, rather than answer the question in any back and forth that could be called a discussion while simultaneously lying about the interaction which is right there in black and white for anyone to read......again.

Here's another one for you to answer whenever you get around to answering questions. Can you see how this is detrimental to peoples opinion of you, and by extension your faith as an advocate?

(March 15, 2019 at 9:31 am)LastPoet Wrote:

(March 14, 2019 at 10:52 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Flute abuse!

Is that what kids call it like that?

Nothing better than a good "flute".

(March 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 11:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Why are you so stupid and persistent in exhibiting your Christianity induced stupidity?

If you go away, our opinion of both your level of utter and nearly indescribable stupidity and of the baleful effects of your so called faith will be forever stay merely at its current low level.   We will have no cause to further worsen our opinion of your intelligence or the despicable effects of your religion any more.   It would really be the best for your reputation and the reputation of your “faith” to quit now.

Quit for what. I'm just discussing my favorite topic on here. Not too concerned about my rep among atheists.

 Bullshit!

If that were the case, you would not be on an atheist forum. It's clear to me that you care very much what a bunch of atheists think. 

Now that you mention it, why ARE you here?  Do you seriously think you are going to find a convert here?  Do you enjoy people being rude and insulting to you? Or do you think you're stacking up brownie points with Jesus? ( I can kind of understand that, in context)

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 14, 2019 at 6:11 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You are claiming that they did. Prove it.

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But it is known that mtEve had a mother and at least one sister. And similarly, at least one aunt. It's right there in the definition of what mtEve actually is.

This is rather easy to prove, unlike most aspects of the theory.

1. Find any matrilineal lineage that leads to mtEve's mother.

2. Find any matrilineal lineage that does not lead to mtEve's mother. 

3. Two tasks accomplished. 
A. mtEve's mother exists.
and
B. mtEve's mother is not mtEve.

You are still missing the key word "matrilineal" either because you know that it is fatal to your argument or you simply are that stupid.

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OK CDF, let's try this from a different direction.

There actually is a way that your idiotic belief that everyone can be traced back to one particular man and one particular woman can work quite easily.

The solution is really straightforward. You acknowledge that something in the region of 128 billion humans have ever existed. That's a fuzzy figure at best, but roughly works.  Personally, in such discussions, I go with 120, but close enough. We can never reach any accurate count so approximations must suffice.

To make your idea work, all of them, all 128 billion of them male and female, without exception must have had at least one son and at least one daughter who both reproduced. That is the only way your daft idea can work. Were it otherwise, either a male or female lineage would go extinct.

You are claiming that this is so, everyone without exception must have had a minimum of one son AND one daughter.

Do you think that is a reasonable claim to make?

I can't prove they met. 

That is foundational to your irrational "faith", but you brush it under the rug because it is just to inconvenient. Just like you pretend mtEve was one individual when she is not.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Scripturally, they did.

Scripturally

Snakes can talk
Donkeys can talk
Pi is 3
Bats are birds
And so on. Your magic book contains so many absurdities it is hilarious.

Oh and bible Eve had no daughters and thus by definition cannot be mtEve.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There was incest in the beginning to populate the Earth. 

And we all know your magic book approves of incest. And since it does, you do. On top of everything else, you are a pervert.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Some had many sons and daughters and others had few to none.

Eve had no daughters. Cain porked his mom.

(March 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This is the way it worked out.

This explains a lot. Your god is really too thick to figure out anything much and you feel the need to emulate him.

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(March 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 2:18 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You're not discussing anything, you're repeatedly professing the articles of your faith.  You could have a discussion at any time you wanted to...but we've all seen how that plays out, now haven't we?

I've been discussing this since I got here last year. My opinion in most regards is unchanged.

You have discussed nothing. You have bleated the same thing over and over again unthinkingly. That is why you have not changed your opinion.

You steadfastly refuse to do any thinking for yourself. Why would anyone be surprised your opinions have not changed? You cannot change them because they are not yours in the first place. You have been indoctrinated without understanding. Thus you cannot examine your own beliefs in any way because you fundamentally just regurgitate someone elses beliefs as if they were your own. This is why, when challenged, the best you can muster is to simply repeat the stupid claims like an automaton.

(March 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Who are these experts that say they didn't ever meet?

I believe in a common descent among humans. I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans some couple hundred thousand years ago.

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What?

You now beleieve mtEve and YAdam actually did coexist and that they were alive only a short time ago?

WHAT?

I thought you said you were NOT a Young Earth Creationist?

Besides the fact that the very links yo've provided SHOW that there's a huge time diffrence in the biological clock between mtEve and YAdam.

Fek me. It's two steps forwards.... cartwheel back some times with you CDF47.