(April 25, 2019 at 5:03 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(April 25, 2019 at 4:25 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Citations needed.

Dr. Meyer.  More information below:

https://www.yourgenome.org/stories/the-discovery-of-dna

FAIL! Nothing in that article, interesting though it is, presents any evidence for an intelligent designer. Nothing in science is on your side.

You're not very good at this. Get an education, numb nuts.

You forgot the XOR
Just sayin' 😇

Quote:Dr. Meyer.  More information below:

Good zod that article is awful for fuck sake Meyers

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Quote:Listen to the new poster Guardian regarding common sense. Inferring design from a Mind is clear and obvious in my opinion.

Yup in your opinion not reality and GG wall of text no better shows design then your months of mindless ranting .

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I provided plenty of evidence and proof.

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Quote: Nobody established that. 

Yes they have 

Quote:That would be to believe nothing created everything. 

No it wouldn't 

Quote:I do not have that much faith.

Argument from credulity and even if false your god is not an alternative explanation

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Quote:There's a finely-tuned creation,

You have not demonstrated it's a creation 

Quote:there is a Creator. 

Yu have not proven this 

Quote:It's simple.

Only to the simple minded

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Quote:How can it rightly be called information without a mind?  They are necessarily linked by the nature of what they are.  The term information only applies to that which can be known or understood, and knowledge and/or understanding require mind.

(April 25, 2019 at 2:05 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(April 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: It also fails just as often, if not more. 
Deuteronomy forbade omen reading. 
Prophesy was not predicting the future.

Matthew 16: 1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.

CDF is part of the wicked and adulterous generation ... he looks for signs.
Jebus no likey that shit.

I don't pray for signs.  That is forbidden.  The Lord can give signs even to this day I believe (at His will).

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Yes you do. You can't see them (prophecies/signs) unless you are looking for them.

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(April 25, 2019 at 3:30 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(April 25, 2019 at 2:41 am)madog Wrote: I am making quips as you have stopped trying to offer anything other than the bible says  ... You do realise we don't accept the bible as an authority on evolution/creation ?

Offering Dr meyers, who does exactly the same gets us nowhere ....

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You do realise people like Dr meyer, Behe, Ken ham, etc prey on peoples beliefs for their own personal fame and fortune?

They actually do more harm to faith than saying nothing  .... making silly claims that initially make believers feel good, also makes those believers look deeper into their faith ... 

When believers realise they have been sold bullshit by snake oil salesmen there are basically two choices.

a) become an atheist

b) or revert to their old, purely faith based, beliefs as you are now doing.

The thing is, there is no going back from critical thinking  .... I await your return as an atheist.

Not going to happen.  Again, there is complex, specified, functional/operational code inside the cell.  It is proven.

There we have it again. He's actually not even a theist .... much less a Christian theist.

His "faith" (which is not even "faith") is based on a misinterpretation (of seeing)  a "pattern" where there is none.
There is no code. What there is, is chemical bonding, in a way he has misinterpreted as a "code".
He can't say what level of complexity requires a god. He can't even spell out what the levels of complexity are.

Then his cult's founder, (Paul of Tarsus), said "faith is a gift" ... and he's basing his "faith" on his own reasoning.  
Yeah. No faith here folks.

(April 25, 2019 at 1:25 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Ah.

Re-reading the post now that I'm free-er allows me to better understand it.

I think I have a better udnerstanding of what's going on.

So... I supose my follow up question is.

First the DNA 'Unzips'.
Parts of one length are 'read' and made into RNA.
This RNA in turn is then turned into actual 'productive' RNA?

So.. the original DNA is just zipped back up after wards?

Cheers.

Not at work.

Pretty much.  In protein formation, the portion of DNA which becomes unzipped is quite small and depends on the eventual length (in amino acids) of the protein to be formed.  Proteins vary in length from just a few amino acids to many thousands of amino acids.  Usually, a single gene on one chromosome is unzipped from which messenger RNA is formed (mRNA).  This is called the transcription step.  Next the mRNA forms translation RNA (tRNA).  The protein is then formed from the tRNA.  This is called the translation step.

Again, there are other things going on when this series of events occurs, involving enzymes, intron removal, promoters and terminators, non-translated binding sites, etc.

BTW, one of my numbered statements in my recent post above contains incorrect information (Item #5 about left-handedness), which was intentional on my part.  I wanted to see if our famous scientist, CDF47, would spot it and call it out.  Not surprisingly, he hasn't.

(April 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(April 24, 2019 at 11:33 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Mock and scoff all you want.  The Bible predicts the future in prophecy numerous times.  The only book that accurately does that.  In particular the Book of Daniel is amazing if you are interested.

It also fails just as often, if not more. 
Deuteronomy forbade omen reading. 
Prophesy was not predicting the future.

Matthew 16: 1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.

CDF is part of the wicked and adulterous generation ... he looks for signs.
Jebus no likey that shit.

Only if you twist the term accurate to the breaking point

(April 25, 2019 at 10:04 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You forgot the XOR
Just sayin' 😇

Probably a better convo to be had as to why people think XOR is a universal than anything in this thread. 

Quote:there is complex, specified, functional/operational code inside the cell.  It is proven.

IDiot new speak

(April 25, 2019 at 11:07 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(April 25, 2019 at 10:04 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You forgot the XOR
Just sayin' 😇

Probably a better convo to be had as to why people think XOR is a universal than anything in this thread. 

I read your whole post and apologize.


You mentioned the XOR in the text, just missed it in the gfx.

No apologies necessary, it was a massive over-answer for such a simple question.  I suspect that it's only going to be met with yet more magic book based incredulity, though, lol.