There is no god helping humans. There is no Jesus, or Allah or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu. But there are tons of decent human beings worldwide of all beliefs, whom I'd merely argue that our species ability to do good and be good is in us, as individuals. I have no desire as an atheist to force any religion out of existence. But would only argue to my fellow humans that if they can accept that others outside their sect, outside their religion, are as capable of being good and doing good, then my argument is, that our species morality is in OUR SPECIES, not old mythology.

Looks like someone found the Briannip.

I've found that if you skin a person it's hard to tell what "race" he was.

I'm betting the human race.

Look at the booones!

Also grab a Coexist shirt. I think those are cool, even though I've never run across one for myself.

(July 20, 2019 at 8:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:  There is no god helping humans. There is no Jesus, or Allah or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu. But there are tons of decent human beings worldwide of all beliefs, whom I'd merely argue that our species ability to do good and be good is in us, as individuals. I have no desire as an atheist to force any religion out of existence. But would only argue to my fellow humans that if they can accept that others outside their sect, outside their religion, are as capable of being good and doing good, then my argument is, that our species morality is in OUR SPECIES, not old mythology.

That's what I like about you, Brian - you always bring something fresh and different to the table.

Boru

(July 20, 2019 at 8:47 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I've found that if you skin a person it's hard to tell what "race" he was.

BUZZ KILL!

Damn it! You just gave away my recipe for barbecue humans.

I like to call the recipe soylent green.

(July 20, 2019 at 8:47 pm)=Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I've found that if you skin a person it's hard to tell what "race" he was.

But only a human would skin another to find out what race he is.

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(July 20, 2019 at 8:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 20, 2019 at 8:47 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I've found that if you skin a person it's hard to tell what "race" he was.

BUZZ KILL!

Damn it! You just gave away my recipe for barbecue humans.

It’s no good.  Crispy crunch skin is what makes the barbecue.

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(July 20, 2019 at 8:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:  There is no god helping humans. There is no Jesus, or Allah or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu. But there are tons of decent human beings worldwide of all beliefs, whom I'd merely argue that our species ability to do good and be good is in us, as individuals. I have no desire as an atheist to force any religion out of existence. But would only argue to my fellow humans that if they can accept that others outside their sect, outside their religion, are as capable of being good and doing good, then my argument is, that our species morality is in OUR SPECIES, not old mythology.

It may be an worthy aspiration to take our morality without baggage.   It may be that morality would only reach their full potential to serve mankind if dispensed of its baggage. 

But it must be admitted that, up to now and to the degree morality has been able to serve its purpose, it has most frequently come to serve that purpose using mythology as its means of conveyance.

We can work out morality but we are by nature not moral beings.

So morality that provides greater good of all must often be made to seem to promise disproportionate and false reward for the individual for sufficient numbers of individual to act on that morality.