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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 8:47 am
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Lol, no.
Anyhoo....the opinions in this thread to the effect of people’s common everyday shittiness (or sociopathy, even) have more to do with a misanthropic attitude than fact.
People aren’t anywhere near as bad as people could be, and our society certainly doesn’t reward heterodox behaviors or personalities such as sociopathy. Unless you consider stigma and institutionalization rewarding.
I think that it’s more likely, op, that you are expressing your frustrations rather than commenting on how people or society really is. You won’t find sociopaths (and a society that rewards them) everywhere you go (or anywhere, really)....but you will find your frustrations anywhere and everywhere.
Wherever you go, there you are, after all.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 8:58 am
(September 10, 2019 at 6:42 pm)Belaqua Wrote: (September 10, 2019 at 10:08 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Um, pretty sure protection rackets and sex trafficking don't confine themselves to criminal victims, even in Japan.
The Yakuza is bad and does bad things.
Now back to my original point:
If you wanted to stick to your original point, maybe you shouldn't have digressed about the 'honor' of the Yakuza. But I'll give you the free pass you want. Enjoy.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:15 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 8:58 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: (September 10, 2019 at 6:42 pm)Belaqua Wrote: The Yakuza is bad and does bad things.
Now back to my original point:
If you wanted to stick to your original point, maybe you shouldn't have digressed about the 'honor' of the Yakuza. But I'll give you the free pass you want. Enjoy.
I never said the Yakuza had any honor, so what you say here is a lie.
I said they don't bother people who aren't in rival gangs. In fact that was too narrow, I should have said that if you're not connected with their industries (drugs, prostitution, etc.) then their tough-guy approach to life doesn't affect you. As was clear from context, I was talking about tough guy attitudes, and the fact that with the exception of the Yakuza they are relatively unimportant in Japan.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:26 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Belaqua Wrote: (September 11, 2019 at 8:58 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you wanted to stick to your original point, maybe you shouldn't have digressed about the 'honor' of the Yakuza. But I'll give you the free pass you want. Enjoy.
I never said the Yakuza had any honor, so what you say here is a lie.
I said they don't bother people who aren't in rival gangs. In fact that was too narrow, I should have said that if you're not connected with their industries (drugs, prostitution, etc.) then their tough-guy approach to life doesn't affect you. As was clear from context, I was talking about tough guy attitudes, and the fact that with the exception of the Yakuza they are relatively unimportant in Japan.
I'm sorry, are you unaware of how organized crime makes its money?
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:34 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 5:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 11, 2019 at 5:15 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I never said the Yakuza had any honor, so what you say here is a lie.
I said they don't bother people who aren't in rival gangs. In fact that was too narrow, I should have said that if you're not connected with their industries (drugs, prostitution, etc.) then their tough-guy approach to life doesn't affect you. As was clear from context, I was talking about tough guy attitudes, and the fact that with the exception of the Yakuza they are relatively unimportant in Japan.
I'm sorry, are you unaware of how organized crime makes its money?
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I am talking about tough-guy ways of speaking. For example, your manner on this forum.
The Yakuza use tough-guy ways of speaking, far more than others in Japan. That is all I want to say.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:38 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 5:34 pm)Belaqua Wrote: (September 11, 2019 at 5:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm sorry, are you unaware of how organized crime makes its money?
Boru
I am talking about tough-guy ways of speaking. For example, your manner on this forum.
Me? I'm a pussycat, I am.
Quote:The Yakuza use tough-guy ways of speaking, far more than others in Japan. That is all I want to say.
How could you possibly know that if - as you claim - the Yakuza only speak like that among themselves? Are you Yakuza? May we see your tattoos?
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:41 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 5:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 11, 2019 at 5:34 pm)Belaqua Wrote: I am talking about tough-guy ways of speaking. For example, your manner on this forum.
Me? I'm a pussycat, I am.
Quote:The Yakuza use tough-guy ways of speaking, far more than others in Japan. That is all I want to say.
How could you possibly know that if - as you claim - the Yakuza only speak like that among themselves? Are you Yakuza? May we see your tattoos?
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 5:46 pm
(September 11, 2019 at 5:41 pm)Belaqua Wrote: (September 11, 2019 at 5:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Me? I'm a pussycat, I am.
How could you possibly know that if - as you claim - the Yakuza only speak like that among themselves? Are you Yakuza? May we see your tattoos?
Boru
You are missing the point, intentionally or not I can't tell. Sayonara.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 11, 2019 at 6:12 pm
I think you are exaggerating the situation. Why are you so obsessed about correcting Belaqua about the Yakuza? That was never his point.
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RE: Ours is a society that rewards sociopathy
September 12, 2019 at 3:25 am
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(September 11, 2019 at 6:12 pm)Macoleco Wrote: I think you are exaggerating the situation. Why are you so obsessed about correcting Belaqua about the Yakuza? That was never his point.
Because @ Belaqua is often a smarmy douche who likes to argue with people for the sake of argument. And Boru will find any reason to disagree with someone, even semantics. Bel talks about the prevalence in Western society of the tough guy who responds to disagreement with the threat of physical violence.
What about responding to people who disagree with you with the comparison of them to the mentally ill? Where is that a common trend at? I wonder.
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