(May 28, 2020 at 11:28 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(May 28, 2020 at 3:52 pm)Drich Wrote: if you start with verse 43 and read through contextually you whole sham exegesis can be disregarded. Jesus contextually is calling for the perfection of God through the very specific act of loving your enemies. which is why i am answering you here now.

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Actually that's the END of the chapter, and the entire thing is a LOT MORE than just loving your enemies.

did you for get or are you so dishonest it simply does not matter? your quote started at 44 forward, which leaves the passage ambiguous. the inculsion of mat 43 is the start of a new teaching or paragraph listed in most bibles as "love for your enemies." Why the rest of the chapter does speak on several other passages 43-48 are a specific lesson. funny how you left off the title when you quoted 44-48 and inserted your own. kind like you knew you were doing wrong and did it anyway.

quoting from 38 to show and prove you not only wrong but completely disingenuous/dishonest in your assessment of the passage:
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV

You are either stupid, or human garbage for misrepresenting not only the bible, but your intentions and my exegesis that trying to clear the air of an honest mistake, the first time around. any honest non trash person would have yielded once he read the passage in full. no you double down. I called your bluff you have nothing more you can factually say. everything else you can say will be a lie or vitriol.

Quote: You really should take a Bible class, and actually read the Bible for once.

you should take an honesty class try being honest when the passage is referenced and verifiable.

Quote:You are a fraud. The sham exegesis is yours, which ignores the entire rest of the chapter. Fail again.

looks like you are projecting your inner feelings again..

Quote:Christ as the "head of the church" is not a "non-denominational" idea. Tsk tsk.

it is a biblical fact, denominations are your game not mine, i don't care what men call each other or how we judge one another as it only matters to those who sit in judgement of their betters. eph 5:23. Subsequently the pope is considered the head of the RC church.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope
IE having Jesus the head of the church is not in conformity with papal authority.

Quote:Oh look. Drippy can copy-paste. Doesn't care *what* it's about, but a wall of text, ANY wall of text is what we get.

and buckster can't be bother to google anything for he speaks making him look like a modern" science minded" man in light of these walls of text, to anyone seeking the truth.

Quote:so long as Christ is at the center his atoenement will wash away all sin, including those that people make in earnest worship.

LOL. You can't even spell atonement. LOL Still cheap grace. You failed to get the POINT.
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misspelled word or not the truth is unabated by your ad hom attempt at a sweeping dismissal.

Quote:i will pay for 1/2 plane ticket if you are serious and show you round everything i have shared. medical records as i have access to them,

LOL. I don't waste my time with frauds. You are mentally ill. You have no medical record that says you were cured of HIV. You are a raving lunatic.
[/quote] got one says i am cancer free after 5 years of being told i have a 98% chance of it i have medical records of a burst appendix, i have medical records that show problems with my immune system that can present as having late stages hiv or cancer. I have a three business to show high school year books that show me evil atheistic way of life oh and US patents letters from my attorney that is congratulating me on my successful filing and acceptance of my patent.

Quote:because bohnffe is not smart enough to tie the loose end up that come in the completion of the law. turn to your fav chapter mat 5. after jesus says he is here to complete the law, he made the law complete not only extending the moral side to thought sin, but the ceremonial laws as well.

Quote:It's BonhoeffER, and you are such an ignoramus you don't even know who he was. As for the rest, it's not even to the point. 

I know who bonhoeffer was, i was just highlighting the fact that a bohnffee was what you and your hero offered in the way of a surchage for a 'happy ending on date night" a bohn... Fee

Quote:A religionist saying Bonhoeffer "missed" something is like a physicist calling Einstein ignorant.

content douche bag..
MY CONTENT BEARS OUT THE TRUTH ARROGANT OR NOT. i demonstrated what he did miss. never mind history is on my side/the NT church from the day of Pentecost forward/Acts 2 marked a radical movement away from the OT church AND DEVELOPED A NEW RELIGION. I PROPERLY SHOW HOW AND WHY THIS IS POSSIBLE USING THE SCRIPTURE HE Arrogantly OVER LOOKED.

Quote: You, who didn't even graduate from Grade School ...

God uses the foolish to over turn the wise so you can know the knoweledge i have is not mine but the of the Holy Spirit. again dummy look at what was said not who said it. if you do Mr bohnffee's house of cards comes tumbling down.

Quote: saying he "missed" something. LMAO
You are such an ignorant fraud, you have no clue what you don't know.

moron, no one knows what they don't know that phrase is a game/trick to catch the dunning -Kruger among us. on those who hold no self introspective ability would assume it is possible to know what we don't know and think therefore this is an insult. You bring shame on those who self identify as you do. Stop pretending to be in a postition of authority. grade your own papers check your own facts for if you did you wouls not have just been served this much humble pie.

Quote:Everything I posted stands. You refuted nothing.

kruger table for two, dunning kruger your table is ready!

Quote:I saw you were here a lot this week, trying to figure out what to say, and leaving.
LOL

this is one of three forums, plus reddit and 3 facebook chats i do. plus again my full time job.
this has become a mock gallery. so i put it in rank accordingly. for instance i have 60 posts to respond to since yesterday. most legit questions from people really looking. not this crap from people like you who don't know how badly he and his bohner buddy has just been bested.

Quote:You're not capable of teaching or clarifying anything. You really should leave this to those who have an education and can spell correctly.

your words say no... but your actions and repeated efforts say something different.

Quote:because baptist are the only one going to heaven... duh!
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..... that and your stupid joke IN NO WAY answers the POINT .... and it proves you are incapable of dealing with the POINT.
You really should get over yourself, and your tired jokes. You're not really up to this, sport. You should go post somewhere else. You have nothing to offer here.
Buh bye.

it just demonstrates the arrogance of some. that's all. thought it fit the nature of your response well.

Quote:Drich : 
misspelled word or not the truth is unabated by your ad hom attempt at a sweeping dismissal.

Goodness. I think we forgot to take our pills today.

You exegesis is shit. You asserted a falsehood. You ignored most of the chapter you (falsely) attempted to explain.
You don't even know how to discuss a text.

The truth is you are an ignoramus, with no education, stomping your ignorant little feet, demanding to be heard, PRETENDING you know something you clearly don't.
You are universally dismissed here, as everywhere. You have nothing to offer. You can't even spell the important words or concepts you bring up. 
You couldn't spell "atonement", just as you didn't even know what a "pericope" was. Yeah. You are dismissed. You're a pretender. A bogus pretender.

Quote:got one says i am cancer free after 5 years of being told i have a 98% chance of it i have medical records of a burst appendix, i have medical records that show problems with my immune system that can present as having late stages hiv or cancer. I have a three business to show high school year books that show me evil atheistic way of life oh and US patents letters from my attorney that is congratulating me on my successful filing and acceptance of my patent.

Sure you do. Sure you do. "Pride goeth before the fall". Your sins of pride are egregious.  LOL. You do not follow the Jesus you pretend to follow.
Your mentality is that of an 11 year old. You have medical records of a burst appendix ? LOL. So what ?
2 - 5 percent of those with appendicitis get it. All it means is that you didn't go to the doctor when you should have.
Just like you could not interpret Voltaire correctly, I seriously doubt you can interpret medical records correctly. Dismissed.

Quote:I know who bonhoeffer was, i was just highlighting the fact that a bohnffee was what you and your hero offered in the way of a surchage for a 'happy ending on date night.

Sure you do, sure you do. But you are so ignorant you can't capitalize his name, or use a spell-checker ? LOL As usual your fake excuse makes no sense. Another stupid joke to DEFLECT from the FACT that you don't know who Bonhoeffer was, or what he wrote. You have no clue what he missed or didn't miss. You never once read ANYTHING he wrote and cannot and did not QUOTE him. Yeah douche bag, you're LYING again, just like you lied about your banning at AD. You are nothing by a LIAR Dripshit. A Liar. No one believes ANYTHING you write. Nothing. Your "content" demonstrates you know nothing about any relevant subject. Your "content" proves nothing about what you claim. You cannot and did not quote Dr. Bonhoeffer. You can't and you won't. You're a two-bit lying religious fraud. All you could do was copy-paste a bunch of irrelevant nonsense.

Quote:this is one of three forums, plus reddit and 3 facebook chats i do. plus again my full time job.

Such a busy guy. Busy. Busy for Jebus. .
So you waste your time a lot. So what. You have NO converts or followers, here or anywhere.
Your full time job as a douch bag ? You have proved on the forums we read your shit on, that you are totally wasting your time.
You are a hateful mentally ill nut case, suffering from Dunning-Krueger. I see that REALLY got to you. LOL.

You STILL have not addressed the POINTS raised in my post. A lot of bluster and childish BS and bla bla bla .... but no response to the POINTS.
Nothing but a bunch of copy-paste, stupid jokes and NOTHING to the point.
You're such a great Christian. Why would ANYONE be stupid enough to want to be a part of religion, if it make s YOU like you are ?
You're the BEST advertisement for atheism/non-belief there could possibly be. Do keep it up. LOL. Thanks for all you do for atheism.

(June 1, 2020 at 8:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

Quote:Drich : 
misspelled word or not the truth is unabated by your ad hom attempt at a sweeping dismissal.

Goodness. I think we forgot to take our pills today.

You exegesis is shit. You asserted a falsehood. You ignored most of the chapter you (falsely) attempted to explain.
You don't even know how to discuss a text.

The truth is you are an ignoramus, with no education, stomping your ignorant little feet, demanding to be heard, PRETENDING you know something you clearly don't.
You are universally dismissed here, as everywhere. You have nothing to offer. You can't even spell the important words or concepts you bring up. 
You couldn't spell "atonement", just as you didn't even know what a "pericope" was. Yeah. You are dismissed. You're a pretender. A bogus pretender.

Quote:got one says i am cancer free after 5 years of being told i have a 98% chance of it i have medical records of a burst appendix, i have medical records that show problems with my immune system that can present as having late stages hiv or cancer. I have a three business to show high school year books that show me evil atheistic way of life oh and US patents letters from my attorney that is congratulating me on my successful filing and acceptance of my patent.

Sure you do. Sure you do. "Pride goeth before the fall". Your sins of pride are egregious.  LOL. You do not follow the Jesus you pretend to follow.
Your mentality is that of an 11 year old. You have medical records of a burst appendix ? LOL. So what ?
2 - 5 percent of those with appendicitis get it. All it means is that you didn't go to the doctor when you should have.
Just like you could not interpret Voltaire correctly, I seriously doubt you can interpret medical records correctly. Dismissed.

Quote:I know who bonhoeffer was, i was just highlighting the fact that a bohnffee was what you and your hero offered in the way of a surchage for a 'happy ending on date night.

Sure you do, sure you do. But you are so ignorant you can't capitalize his name, or use a spell-checker ? LOL As usual your fake excuse makes no sense. Another stupid joke to DEFLECT from the FACT that you don't know who Bonhoeffer was, or what he wrote. You have no clue what he missed or didn't miss. You never once read ANYTHING he wrote and cannot and did not QUOTE him. Yeah douche bag, you're LYING again, just like you lied about your banning at AD. You are nothing by a LIAR Dripshit. A Liar. No one believes ANYTHING you write. Nothing. Your "content" demonstrates you know nothing about any relevant subject. Your "content" proves nothing about what you claim. You cannot and did not quote Dr. Bonhoeffer. You can't and you won't. You're a two-bit lying religious fraud. All you could do was copy-paste a bunch of irrelevant nonsense.

Quote:this is one of three forums, plus reddit and 3 facebook chats i do. plus again my full time job.

Such a busy guy. Busy. Busy for Jebus. .
So you waste your time a lot. So what. You have NO converts or followers, here or anywhere.
Your full time job as a douch bag ? You have proved on the forums we read your shit on, that you are totally wasting your time.
You are a hateful mentally ill nut case, suffering from Dunning-Krueger. I see that REALLY got to you. LOL.

You STILL have not addressed the POINTS raised in my post. A lot of bluster and childish BS and bla bla bla .... but no response to the POINTS.
Nothing but a bunch of copy-paste, stupid jokes and NOTHING to the point.
You're such a great Christian. Why would ANYONE be stupid enough to want to be a part of religion, if it make s YOU like you are ?
You're the BEST advertisement for atheism/non-belief there could possibly be. Do keep it up. LOL. Thanks for all you do for atheism.

i see trollie is back..
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Tried asking your way to a better argument yet?

(June 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 1, 2020 at 8:24 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Goodness. I think we forgot to take our pills today.

You exegesis is shit. You asserted a falsehood. You ignored most of the chapter you (falsely) attempted to explain.
You don't even know how to discuss a text.

The truth is you are an ignoramus, with no education, stomping your ignorant little feet, demanding to be heard, PRETENDING you know something you clearly don't.
You are universally dismissed here, as everywhere. You have nothing to offer. You can't even spell the important words or concepts you bring up. 
You couldn't spell "atonement", just as you didn't even know what a "pericope" was. Yeah. You are dismissed. You're a pretender. A bogus pretender.


Sure you do. Sure you do. "Pride goeth before the fall". Your sins of pride are egregious.  LOL. You do not follow the Jesus you pretend to follow.
Your mentality is that of an 11 year old. You have medical records of a burst appendix ? LOL. So what ?
2 - 5 percent of those with appendicitis get it. All it means is that you didn't go to the doctor when you should have.
Just like you could not interpret Voltaire correctly, I seriously doubt you can interpret medical records correctly. Dismissed.


Sure you do, sure you do. But you are so ignorant you can't capitalize his name, or use a spell-checker ? LOL As usual your fake excuse makes no sense. Another stupid joke to DEFLECT from the FACT that you don't know who Bonhoeffer was, or what he wrote. You have no clue what he missed or didn't miss. You never once read ANYTHING he wrote and cannot and did not QUOTE him. Yeah douche bag, you're LYING again, just like you lied about your banning at AD. You are nothing by a LIAR Dripshit. A Liar. No one believes ANYTHING you write. Nothing. Your "content" demonstrates you know nothing about any relevant subject. Your "content" proves nothing about what you claim. You cannot and did not quote Dr. Bonhoeffer. You can't and you won't. You're a two-bit lying religious fraud. All you could do was copy-paste a bunch of irrelevant nonsense.


Such a busy guy. Busy. Busy for Jebus. .
So you waste your time a lot. So what. You have NO converts or followers, here or anywhere.
Your full time job as a douch bag ? You have proved on the forums we read your shit on, that you are totally wasting your time.
You are a hateful mentally ill nut case, suffering from Dunning-Krueger. I see that REALLY got to you. LOL.

You STILL have not addressed the POINTS raised in my post. A lot of bluster and childish BS and bla bla bla .... but no response to the POINTS.
Nothing but a bunch of copy-paste, stupid jokes and NOTHING to the point.
You're such a great Christian. Why would ANYONE be stupid enough to want to be a part of religion, if it make s YOU like you are ?
You're the BEST advertisement for atheism/non-belief there could possibly be. Do keep it up. LOL. Thanks for all you do for atheism.

i see trollie is back..
1

I see Dripshit has nothing to reply with. 

"1" is a confirmation he has nothing, and actually never read Bonhoeffer, and has not a clue what he was talking about. 
But we already knew that. They don't teach Bonhoeffer in 4th Grade.

(June 3, 2020 at 12:32 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Tried asking your way to a better argument yet?

still here.. what it's been 8 years? do you really think buckster is wearing on me? i know his type. i'm just feeding him enough to commit to these big long rants then ignore it (if he jumps topic starts flamming or trolling) i like to let the little feller to wear himself out good. before i take another nibble at him.

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(June 3, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(June 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm)Drich Wrote: i see trollie is back..
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I see Dripshit has nothing to reply with. 

"1" is a confirmation he has nothing, and actually never read Bonhoeffer, and has not a clue what he was talking about. 
But we already knew that. They don't teach Bonhoeffer in 4th Grade.

2, must learn how to out think that half wit some place else.

Riiiiight.
The delusional Dripshit has demonstrated on THIS PAGE he has no clue what he's on about, and is incapable of answering anything.
Still waiting for QUOTES from Bonhoeffer that support his lies.
Those who can't even spell their main topic words really shouldn't be using the term "halfwit".

He may have been here for 8 wasted years.
He has wasted his time for 8 years.
He has no converts.
All he does is prove how hateful religion has made him. With every post.
He's a great help to atheism.

(June 3, 2020 at 4:37 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 3, 2020 at 12:32 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Tried asking your way to a better argument yet?

still here.. what it's been 8 years? do you really think buckster is wearing on me? i know his type. i'm just feeding him enough to commit to these big long rants then ignore it (if he jumps topic starts flamming or trolling) i like to let the little feller to wear himself out good. before i take another nibble at him.

So....no?  Or yes, and god said no?

(June 3, 2020 at 5:29 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Riiiiight.
The delusional Dripshit has demonstrated on THIS PAGE he has no clue what he's on about, and is incapable of answering anything.
Still waiting for QUOTES from Bonhoeffer that support his lies.
Those who can't even spell their main topic words really shouldn't be using the term "halfwit".

He may have been here for 8 wasted years.
He has wasted his time for 8 years.
He has no converts.
All he does is prove how hateful religion has made him. With every post.
He's a great help to atheism.

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(June 3, 2020 at 10:52 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:

(June 3, 2020 at 4:37 pm)Drich Wrote: still here.. what it's been 8 years? do you really think buckster is wearing on me? i know his type. i'm just feeding him enough to commit to these big long rants then ignore it (if he jumps topic starts flamming or trolling) i like to let the little feller to wear himself out good. before i take another nibble at him.

So....no?  Or yes, and god said no?

The argument is solid because not only is it a chain of specific acts it is also a practice in humility. if you can't get past that what you see as a flawed argument is better/succeeds all your efforts in the past, then whether or not you follow God's command you fail out on having no humility.

So.....no? Or yes, and god said no?