(October 26, 2011 at 9:06 am)salty Wrote: I guess I need example. Really, from what I've read there's a huge attack on my intelligence instead of a counter argument. If there's no attack on intelligence it's an attack on my personal character. Also, "you made that up" or "your Bible isn't true" isn't acceptable as a counter argument.

I'm just trying to get people to a place where they're not running after me personally, but are instead exciting about pursuing the topic.

So I've been lurking in a lot of threads, and there are some people who call you an idiot or the like - or more amusingly when Eld calls you a bigot - but you know what? From the beginning there were plenty of us who tried to address everything you said with logic and reason. And when you didn't like the answer, you claimed we were insulting you.

Guess what? I actually defended you in private and requested to people who aren't likely to show any kindness that they give you a little leeway to see if you were actually interested in learning. I have to be honest and say I've become almost sorry I did.

Just proof positive that Atheists are willing to include everyone of honest inquiry TSQ ..Not your fault that this one refuses to let go of her superstitions and fantasies....she is still very young.

She's my age, Kich.

I wouldn't have guessed that...

And where it gets personal is that even atheists get caught up in their own particular delusions. Salty keeps playing the victim, and I'm sorry, but that irritates me.

I've had Shell rip me a new one (or it felt like it) time and again - I don't get bent out of shape about it. I go back and fix what's wrong.

(October 26, 2011 at 9:15 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(October 26, 2011 at 9:06 am)salty Wrote: I guess I need example. Really, from what I've read there's a huge attack on my intelligence instead of a counter argument. If there's no attack on intelligence it's an attack on my personal character. Also, "you made that up" or "your Bible isn't true" isn't acceptable as a counter argument.

I'm just trying to get people to a place where they're not running after me personally, but are instead exciting about pursuing the topic.

So I've been lurking in a lot of threads, and there are some people who call you an idiot or the like - or more amusingly when Eld calls you a bigot - but you know what? From the beginning there were plenty of us who tried to address everything you said with logic and reason. And when you didn't like the answer, you claimed we were insulting you.

Guess what? I actually defended you in private and requested to people who aren't likely to show any kindness that they give you a little leeway to see if you were actually interested in learning. I have to be honest and say I've become almost sorry I did.

People here treat theists like garbage, that's a given. About 5 seconds of research can prove that's true. I was being insulted from the moment I posted here, and since then, probably a hundred times more. I don't really care because such schoolyard behavior doesn't bother me. I also think it is an excellent advertisement for anyone coming to these forums for the bankruptsy of atheism. What Salty is trying to do is elevate the level of conversation, but apparently that would just be putting lipstick on a pig at this point.

And ignoring the insults and concentrating on the argument they did or didn't give back is too much to ask?

You're in our sandbox now. I asked this place to not be so hostile. I also asked theists to grow a thicker skin.

Nah, it is just tough love, sonny

PS - atheism has nothing to do with insulting people. I've never insulted her. Nor have several other people on this forum.

If you want elevated conversation, go to people willing to actually have a discussion. Not people who want to post what they feel and not have it picked apart and looked at.

(October 26, 2011 at 9:23 am)lucent Wrote:

(October 26, 2011 at 9:15 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(October 26, 2011 at 9:06 am)salty Wrote: I guess I need example. Really, from what I've read there's a huge attack on my intelligence instead of a counter argument. If there's no attack on intelligence it's an attack on my personal character. Also, "you made that up" or "your Bible isn't true" isn't acceptable as a counter argument.

I'm just trying to get people to a place where they're not running after me personally, but are instead exciting about pursuing the topic.

So I've been lurking in a lot of threads, and there are some people who call you an idiot or the like - or more amusingly when Eld calls you a bigot - but you know what? From the beginning there were plenty of us who tried to address everything you said with logic and reason. And when you didn't like the answer, you claimed we were insulting you.

Guess what? I actually defended you in private and requested to people who aren't likely to show any kindness that they give you a little leeway to see if you were actually interested in learning. I have to be honest and say I've become almost sorry I did.

People here treat theists like garbage, that's a given. About 5 seconds of research can prove that's true. I was being insulted from the moment I posted here, and since then, probably a hundred times more. I don't really care because such schoolyard behavior doesn't bother me. I also think it is an excellent advertisement for anyone coming to these forums for the bankruptsy of atheism. What Salty is trying to do is elevate the level of conversation, but apparently that would just be putting lipstick on a pig.

The trouble here is that theist like yourself and salty luce think that atheists are the garbage and you take the moral high ground...

FUCK OFF AND TAKE YOU ABUSIVE DEITY WITH YOU!!

You have no evidence that your deity exists, you have no historical evidence for anything in your so called sacred texts...ergo you have nothing and are holding onto a fantasy the assumes that "daddy will always be there to save your butt" ...only he won't and most of the people here on this forum have learnt the hard way that your belief is worthless.

People and only people are of value